Get Ready for Impeachment
Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
New York Times Opinion
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🗓️ 26 September 2019
⏱️ 26 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | I'm Michelle Goldberg. |
| 0:02.0 | I'm Ross Douthett. |
| 0:03.5 | I'm David Lee and Hart, and this is the argument. |
| 0:07.0 | This week, get ready for impeachment. |
| 0:10.0 | I don't think you can overemphasize just how abrupt the change has been, the damn sort of first all at once. |
| 0:18.0 | Then, we talk about the 2020 primaries on the Republican side. |
| 0:22.0 | Anyone who runs for president against an incumbent president who probably shouldn't be president deserves a certain amount of credit |
| 0:29.0 | and admiration, and finally, a recommendation. |
| 0:33.0 | I have had a feeling that I've never had in the past, which is this desire to be in the future looking back analytically at right now. |
| 0:53.0 | Just one week ago, it seemed highly unlikely that House Democrats would impeach President Trump. |
| 0:58.0 | But then came the news about Trump's attempts to pressure Ukraine to produce dirt on Joe Biden. |
| 1:03.0 | And suddenly, everything changed. |
| 1:05.0 | This week, Nancy Pelosi, the Speaker of the House, who has long been opposed to impeachment, announced that she's going to open a process that could ultimately lead to the president's impeachment. |
| 1:15.0 | Michelle, you've been in favor of impeachment for a long time, and I know you've been frustrated that it wasn't happening. |
| 1:20.0 | But I assume now you think it really is likely to happen. |
| 1:24.0 | Yeah, I really do. And I think it's, I don't think you can overemphasize just how abrupt the change has been, the damn sort of burst all at once. |
| 1:33.0 | I had a column, you know, calling out Nancy Pelosi for her failure to begin impeachment proceedings. |
| 1:40.0 | And for failure to do it after the Mueller report, which I think emboldened Trump in his latest betrayal of the country with Ukraine. |
| 1:49.0 | I had background conversations with people on both sides of this issue and got no sense as of Monday morning that there was any real movement. |
| 1:59.0 | And then by Monday evening, impeachment had seemed inevitable. |
| 2:05.0 | Well, I agree with you that it's likely to happen. And as regular listeners know, you and I've been on different sides of this, I have previously thought impeachment would be a mistake. |
| 2:13.0 | I thought it would have been a mistake after Mueller, because I don't think it would have persuaded people who didn't already think Trump should be gone. |
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