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🗓️ 31 January 2025
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German MPs debate a controversial new immigration law, put forward by the main conservative party but reliant on the far-right to pass. We get the latest from Berlin.
Also in the programme: we hear from relatives of some of the tens of thousands of Ukrainians missing in the wake of Russia's full-scale invasion; and the New Zealand mountain now recognised as a legal person.
(IMAGE: Co-leaders of the Alternative for Germany party (AfD) Tino Chrupalla and Alice Weidel react as Christian Democratic Party (CDU) party leader Friedrich Merz answers a question from the Greens about AfD, during a session of the lower house of parliament Bundestag, after Merz succeeded on Wednesday in getting a motion passed in parliament that calls for a migration crackdown, including the rejection of asylum seekers at the country's land borders, in Berlin, Germany, January 31, 2025 / CREDIT: Reuters / Nadja Wohlleben)
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0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to NewsA. from the BBC World Service. We're coming to you live from London. I'm James Menendez. And we're going to start today in Germany. |
0:11.6 | The sound of protesters in Berlin last night chanting everyone against fascism. |
0:24.6 | And that's because today, members of the German Parliament are debating a new law, |
0:29.3 | tightening the rules on immigration. |
0:31.6 | Legislation tabled by the main opposition conservatives, the CDU, |
0:36.3 | that can only pass with the support of the far-right |
0:38.8 | alternative for Germany party. Other parties and, indeed, some in the CDU, say that would |
0:44.4 | shatter what's become known as the firewall, the understanding in place since the end of the |
0:49.2 | Second World War that the main party shouldn't do business with the far right. But there are elections next month, |
0:55.9 | and polls suggest immigration is the top worry for voters. |
1:00.3 | While an MP for Germany's ruling centre left, Social Democrats, |
1:03.9 | Jan Zimmerman told the BBC that the leader of the CDU, |
1:07.8 | Friedrich Merz, was employing a dangerous strategy. |
1:10.8 | Without any need, he is now, Friedrich Merz, was employing a dangerous strategy. |
1:17.3 | Without any need, he is now Friedrich Merz trying to make this election about migration. |
1:23.9 | And again, making elections about migration is always supporting the populist and the far right. So I think this will be a historic mistake for the Conservative Party here in Germany. |
1:29.4 | Well, live to Berlin to talk to our correspondent, Damien McGuinness. And Damien, I'm just looking |
1:33.4 | up at my monitors here, the scene from the Bundestag, that debate going on. But it took a while |
1:39.0 | to get going. What was the holdup? Yeah, we've had a dramatic day here in Berlin, James, and the holdup was really |
1:44.9 | because the debate was put on pause as parties gathered together to try and figure out |
1:52.5 | what to do. So you had two things happening. Party leaders were trying to get their MPs |
1:57.4 | on side because the Conservatives have seen a bit of a rebellion. Some centrist |
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