Hello, I'm Kirstie Young, and this is a podcast from the Desert Island Discs archive.

For rights reasons, we've had to shorten the music.

The program was originally broadcast in 1989,

and the presenter was Sue Lolly. My castaway this week is a cartoonist, his grotesque characterizations of the world's most public figures

have been a feature of our newspapers and magazines for more than 25 years.

His style is too distort.

The people he draws, bulge and sag, form brutal shapes or turn themselves

into monstrous objects. But from President Nixon to Mikhail Gorbachev, the characters,

like their Creator, are always recognizable.

In recent years his talent for the eye-catching image has taken him into other fields, like

set design, animation, and filmmaking. He is Gerald Scarf.

Gerald, do you find that people expect you to be rather like your cartoons, that's to say

gnarled, distorted and rather sinister? They do, yes, and I am in some ways I think a little bit

gnarled inside. I'm gnarled inside. I find things disturbing and my drawings really depict what I find disturbing.

And are they always things political that you find disturbing?

No, I think those are mainly the drawings that are seen by the public because they have to be recognizable caricatures and newspapers and they have to deal with known characters.

They're usually about people in power, people who have power over us and are ordering our lives for us.

But we should explain how you're having admitted to being gnarled at least inside that outwardly

you are tall, dark and handsome, I think.

Is that, I mean that's how people see you isn't?

I have no idea.

So do you have a terrible temper?

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