#: Georgia frozen, Moldova fragile. Judy Dempsey, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, Editor-in-Chief: Strategic Europe, in Berlin.
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🗓️ 30 October 2024
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| 0:00.0 | I'm John Bautzierle from a bachelor with my colleague Judy Dempsey of the Carnegie |
| 0:07.8 | Endowment for International Peace. She's in Berlin. Last week we were able to discuss Moldova where a vote came in in favor of joining the EU, but it was closer than expected. |
| 0:18.0 | And there were particular reasons. Moldova is a small state, wedged between Ukraine and Romania, the Dieneper on one side |
| 0:29.6 | and the Danube on the other, the larger state that was part of the conversation for these |
| 0:35.0 | last 15 years, Georgia, just had a vote. It also involves the EU but also power |
| 0:41.5 | politics. Reuters reporting from Tbilisi, the capital of Georgia. |
| 0:45.7 | Thousands of people protested outside Georgia's parliament. |
| 0:49.3 | After the governing party won an election marked by reports of voting irregularities |
| 0:54.0 | prompting Western powers to call for an investigation. |
| 0:58.0 | Judy, part of this story is Georgian Dream, the party that won, the domination of the, dominated the vote, has made threats, |
| 1:09.8 | well they're understood of threats, has made remarks about banning opposition parties. |
| 1:14.9 | So this seems less about the EU than influence peddling in some fashion in Georgia. |
| 1:21.5 | Is this something that suggests that Georgia is drifting away from EU and going towards |
| 1:28.1 | the, say, the Russian equivalent of the EU? |
| 1:31.1 | Georgia for several years has been incredibly polarised and don't forget that way back several |
| 1:40.4 | ago Russia actually invaded part of Georgia and the next part of the country. |
| 1:49.1 | And the issue now is who runs Georgia and not only is very polarized but is fact run by an |
| 1:57.4 | extraordinary wealthy pro-Russian oligarch called Bizine Ivanishvili. |
| 2:03.7 | And he's the eminence Greece of the Georgia Dream. |
| 2:09.0 | He finances it. |
| 2:10.6 | And also the Georgia Dream Party, |
| 2:12.4 | they've outlawed non-governmental organizations who |
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