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The Tight Rope

George Lipsitz: The Eminem of Black Studies

The Tight Rope

SpkerBox Media

Society & Culture

5605 Ratings

🗓️ 20 August 2020

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Episode Summary In this episode, Dr. Cornel West and Professor Tricia Rose nail down issues of white allyship, undoing invisible racist ideologies, and the hallmarks of possessive investment in whiteness with their beloved guest Professor George Lipsitz. They provide commentary on the leadership of the Black freedom movement of the past and present as well as the “slow violence” of racism rooted in power, interest, and property. Dr. Cornel West and Professor Tricia Rose hold office hours to offer their takes on the removal of racist monuments and its role in the larger work of dismantling systemic racism. This is an episode of The Tight Rope you will want to return to again and again.     Cornel West Dr. Cornel West is Professor of the Practice of Public Philosophy at Harvard University. A prominent democratic intellectual, social critic, and political activist, West also serves as Professor Emeritus at Princeton University. He graduated Magna Cum Laude from Harvard in three years and obtained his M.A. and Ph.D. in Philosophy at Princeton. West has authored 20 books and edited 13. Most known for Race Matters and Democracy Matters, and his memoir, Brother West: Living and Loving Out Loud, West appears frequently on the Bill Maher Show, CNN, C-Span, and Democracy Now. West has appeared in over 25 documentaries and films, including Examined Life, and is the creator of three spoken word albums including Never Forget. West brings his focus on the role of race, gender, and class in American society to The Tight Rope podcast.    Tricia Rose Professor Tricia Rose is Director of the Center for the Study of Race and Ethnicity in America at Brown University. She also holds the Chancellor’s Professorship of Africana Studies and serves as the Associate Dean of the Faculty for Special Initiatives. A graduate of Yale (B.A.) and Brown University (Ph.D), Rose authored Black Noise: Rap Music and Black Culture in Contemporary America (1994), Longing to Tell: Black Women Talk about Sexuality and Intimacy (2003), and The Hip Hop Wars: What We Talk About When We Talk About Hip Hop and Why It Matters (2008). She also sits on the Boards of the Nathan Cummings Foundation, Color of Change, and Black Girls Rock, Inc. Focusing on issues relating to race in America, mass media, structural inequality, popular culture, gender and sexuality and art and social justice, Rose engages widely in scholarly and popular audience settings, and now also on The Tight Rope podcast.     George Lipsitz Professor George Lipsitz is an American Studies scholar and Professor Emeritus of Black Studies and Sociology at the University of California, Santa Barbara. He received his Ph.D in History at the University of Wisconsin, and his current studies focus on social movements, urban culture, African American music, inequality, the politics of popular culture, and Whiteness Studies. Lipsitz has authored numerous books including The Possessive Investment in Whiteness, How Racism Takes Place, Midnight at the Barrelhouse, Footsteps in the Dark, A Life in the Struggle, and Time Passages. Lipsitz also co-authored The Fierce Urgency of Now: Improvisation, Rights and the Ethics of Co-Creation. He serves as a Chairman of the Board of Directors of the African American Policy Forum and is a member of the Board of Directors of the National Fair Housing Alliance. Lipsitz is an intellectual pioneer and respected figure of the Black freedom movement.    Insight from this episode: Questions we must ask ourselves about self definition as the Black freedom struggle and crisis of the current movement passes to another stage.  A reframing of “white allyship” and “white fragility” in the context of George Lipsitz’s scholarship on the possessive investment in whiteness.  Details on the coordinated crimes of the Pentagon, Wall Street, and the police, specifically the connection between violence abroad and violence “at home.” A call to move beyond symbolic victories when structural changes are needed.

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should focus on next. Please be with us on this journey. Together we can amplify truth, cultivate hope, and work to create a just world. Thank you and stay strong.

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Many of these police officers were involved in military policing in which they were taught that the

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civilians around them were the enemy. You can't just occupy our country and invest in war and think security is the security of

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empires and corporations and not have that pollute your own society.

1:02.6

We are witnessing America as a failed social experiment.

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How do we tell this story in a way that builds the kind of emotional moment as a failed social experiment.

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How do we tell this story in a way that builds the kind of emotional momentum that colorblind ideology built?

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So many young brothers and sisters of the younger generation find themselves so far removed

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in the best of their past.

1:25.6

What are we going to make out of the nothing we've been given?

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How do you envision possibility?

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Well, hello, everyone.

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Welcome and thanks for joining us on the tightrope, where we engage in rich dialogue and try

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to keep our balance on tough, tough issues. I'm Tricia Rose, and I'm here with my co-host and dear friend, Dr. Cornel West. All right, Cornell, off the record. What's going on in the life of your mind this week? You know, we have so much going on. I know there's a whole lot you could be thinking about. Share whatever's on your mind with us. Well, I first want to say, it's a blessing to be on the tightrope with you.

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Yes, indeed. It gets slippery at times, but we stay on it. We keep on moving. And the important

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thing is, is that we are empowering and enabling and ennobling each other.

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First question I get up in the morning with is, how can I fortify myself? How can I accent

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