Drop goals are funny things.

The funny things I think drop goals, because you go for one and you miss and it's deemed this negative. England don't know what they do. England don't know what they're doing. They ran out of ideas, oh, let's just go through a drop roll and then. But if you kick it, it's like, Ralph, this is brilliant. You have a small group of people around you, you really trust their advice, support. They're there when 12 months ago you missed a kick and a drop goal and you lose to New Zealand at home.

They're there for you then. They're also there for you yesterday, but there's

there tries to be a load more people there for you yesterday as well. And that's the difference.

Pollock was absolutely buzzing, mate. He was on one end. I've watched the clips back, and he's there like licking his lips, mate. Have you seen the video? Have you seen the video? He's like, right, I'm just going to sit on the bench for 60 minute, lads. Yeah. Deal with him. Good luck, lad. I fired him up. They're ready. They're all yours. Cheers, guys.

England and beating New Zealand for the first time since 2019.

That's 10 wins in a row.

And we called it George Ford is the man.

And he's here with us now.

Fordy, how are you?

You must be mentally and physically shattered after the game of the weekend. Yeah, I'm good. Yeah, I suppose you are a little bit tired. I think you always are after a test match, aren't you? Like, it's an emotional day, isn't it? So, yeah, but it's always better waking up the day after winning, isn't it? That always makes things a little bit better. And what a day it was, it twickenham yesterday? Like, the atmosphere was incredible in the end, so it was a good day. It was unbelievable. And I hear that Jamie George managed to get hold of the RFU credit card and demand everyone go down to his pub to get a bit of cash flow going. Is this correct?

Yeah, he's not daft, is he? He's had a good day yesterday, both on and off the field, I think.

We all went down there last night. It's the first time, really, this campaign. We've been managed to sort of get together off the field as well.

So it was good. The boys were in good form. Celebrated a good win.

How was the atmosphere after the game, George? Just take us to that. We'll talk about the game,

of course, and everything that happened and the buildup and everything. But beating New Zealand,

given how much England have played New Zealand,

it feels like in the last 12 months or so,

getting that scout must have felt pretty satisfying yesterday.

Yeah, no, look, Len, as you can imagine,

the feeling and the mood in the change room after was a great one.

I think the most pleasing thing or, I suppose, satisfying thing from yesterday is just like

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