Hello everybody and welcome to George Carmane explains it all to Sarah. I'm Sarah

I'm Sarah Longwell publisher of the bulwark and definitely not a lawyer and

because I'm not a lawyer I have asked my friend George Conway from the Society for the Rule of Law

to explain this week's legal news to me and there's a lot to explain because George I'm going to ask you to explain two

Trump trials that are going on right now. The first is the E-Gene Carroll case

happening this week and the second is the Trump organization

fraud case that wrapped last week and unlike the January 6 cases that we talked

about last time this like that was a criminal case but this is a civil

case right which means it's about money and not going to jail correct?

Correct these are these are both civil absolutely, but significant civil cases.

I'm getting better at the legal stuff already.

Okay.

Yeah.

So I want to start with the E. Jean Carroll case, because Trump is big mad at you.

He's out there bleeding at you right now on truth social.

Yeah, he's very mad at you.

You've made him upset.

Uh, and I'm gonna...

This makes me very sad.

Yeah, I'm sure you're really torn up about it.

This is my sad face.

Okay.

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