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Unholy: Two Jews on the News

Genesis of a Scandal - with Matti Friedman and Anthony Julius

Unholy: Two Jews on the News

Unholy Media

News, Society & Culture

4.7 • 680 Ratings

🗓️ 3 April 2025

⏱️ 73 minutes

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Summary

As Qatar-gate gathers momentum—following the arrests of two of Netanyahu’s closest advisors and an Israeli journalist—the scandal inches closer to the heart of power. Netanyahu names a new Shin Bet chief and rescinds his decision within hours. Meanwhile, the IDF expands its military operations in Gaza, raising questions about next steps on multiple fronts. We are joined by acclaimed writer and journalist Matti Friedman ("The Free Press") to discuss a dramatic week for Israel. Plus: A conversation with Lawyer, author and scholar Anthony Julius, whose new book casts a piercing light on one of the Bible’s most elusive and troubling figures—Abraham.

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0:00.0

Right before we begin this week, we wanted to share some news we're excited about.

0:03.7

Our very first unholy live event is coming to London, June 8th.

0:08.0

That's right around the corner.

0:09.3

More details and a link to book your tickets in our show notes.

0:18.1

Even by Israeli standards this week stands out.

0:21.3

Netanyahu's top advisors arrested in the Qatar Gate affair,

0:24.8

the Prime Minister himself, questioned while scrambling to appoint a new shin bed director

0:29.2

in spite of the court blocking him.

0:31.1

Israel, expanding its war in Gaza, while 59 hostages are still being held there.

0:35.6

And we search for some answers in our Jewish past with

0:38.5

lawyer, writer, and scholar Anthony Julius, because obviously the present is a very big question

0:43.4

mark. It's unholy. I'm Unholy. I'm Unholy. Two Jews on the news.

0:58.0

Jonathan is away, and I needed someone to help me make sense of everything,

1:01.3

or at least sit with me on a metaphorical couch together and be bewildered.

1:05.4

So I asked my dear friend Mati Friedman to talk to me today.

1:08.1

Hi, Mati.

1:09.2

Hi, Unite.

1:10.4

Best-selling author and writer for the free press

1:13.1

in Jerusalem. There's a huge gap between us. We should tell our listeners because you're a Jerusalemite,

1:17.3

and I'm a Tila Vivian, and that comes with a lot of differences, but we'll try and bridge over them

1:22.8

because there's so much to say this week. But beyond everything, I mean, we should also say, I think, mentioned

1:28.6

that you were originally from Canada, which means you come with a 25% tariff this morning,

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