Generosity 05: Roundtable with Patrick Johnson and April Chapman
Rule of Life
Practicing the Way
4.8 • 700 Ratings
🗓️ 22 October 2024
⏱️ 57 minutes
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Summary
John Mark leads the first of two roundtable conversations with leaders who have devoted a significant share of their lives to advancing generosity and giving.
This episode featuresPatrick Johnson, founder of Generous Church; and April Chapman, CEO of Generous Giving.
Their conversation explores the reasons for our disordered relationship with money, misunderstandings around Matthew 5 and 6, and how vital it is to remember God’s often-overlooked trait of generosity.
This podcast accompanies the Generosity Practice, a four-session experience designed to help integrate generosity into your community. Learn more at practicingtheway.org/generosity. Thanks to The Circle and other givers, all our resources are free. To learn more about The Circle, visit practicingtheway.org/give. To run a Practice with your church or small group, visit practicingtheway.org/resources
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| 0:00.0 | You're listening to the Rule of Life podcast by practicing the way. |
| 0:05.0 | In each season, we explore an ancient practice from the way of Jesus and its relevance for the modern era. |
| 0:11.0 | This is Season 5, Generosity. Hey, everyone back to the Rule of Life podcast. |
| 0:38.3 | You are listening to one of two bonus episodes for the generosity season. |
| 0:43.3 | When I was in the research phase for our generosity practice, I had the chance to interview over Zoom a few leading experts in the field of generosity. |
| 0:51.3 | And it was like drinking out of a fire hose. |
| 0:53.3 | And I thought, let's have them on for a roundtable conversation |
| 0:57.0 | and see if we can suss out that wisdom for you. |
| 1:01.0 | In this first of two episodes, we interview April Chapman, |
| 1:04.0 | who is the CEO of Generous Giving, a nonprofit I love, |
| 1:09.0 | as well as Patrick Johnson, who's the founder and visionary behind |
| 1:12.3 | generous church, and my friend, the lion himself, rewards Sabonda, who is the senior advisor |
| 1:18.3 | for World Vision International. |
| 1:20.5 | I hope you enjoy this conversation as much as I did. |
| 1:27.1 | April, I would love to start just get into a conversation now and start with you. |
| 1:31.5 | So I had the privilege of speaking for your annual conference a year or two ago. |
| 1:37.8 | And I don't travel and speak much anymore, but it was an easy ask because I've been hearing |
| 1:43.1 | about generous giving for so many |
| 1:45.0 | years from just a short list of people in our community in Portland whose lives were transformed |
| 1:51.6 | by generous giving and the message of, you know, really we're transformed by the message of Jesus, |
| 1:57.7 | but it's rare to hear the message of Jesus in that way. And, you know, |
| 2:02.0 | for those listening, two distinctives that I think really set apart your ministry and the work you do. |
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