Leadership isn't what we think it is, and it never has been.

The last thing I want is more war, the last thing any of us do,

we want to get it done.

I knew that Afghanistan was getting worse, not better.

I go into takeover.

I'm not going to ask permission. we're just going to do it.

Nobody above me was given me anything other than try to beat those guys.

Torture, is it ever effective? The question is... Try to beat those guys.

Torture, is it ever effective?

The question is, is it effective?

Will people talk?

Yeah, people will talk.

Problem is we lost so much national credibility.

I think it's never worth it.

How do you explain to collateral damage?

It's just one of those things that you can never become cavalier about.

You have to think of them as human beings, not as numbers.

You know, my job is to accept responsibility, which I did.

So six months later, it kind of unravels something you thought would never happen. The Rolling Stone magazine article.

It portrays my team as sort of this locker-romatics,

dismissive of the senior administration.

A general's job is not to put a crisis on the president's desk.

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