Species,

species, unite, unite.

Anybody with half a heart could understand that this is a very bad deal for these feeling beings,

that being waking up every day at the same place where these horrible things happened.

It's not right.

Hi, I'm

Hi, I'm Elizabeth Novigrats. This is Species Unite. We'd like to thank Lush for sponsoring today's episode. Lush advocates for people, animals, and the planet.

Through their ethically sourced ingredients

and their grants program, they give back locally and around the world. It's been almost a decade since the National Institutes of Health ended the use of chimpanzees for

biomedical research.

But today, we still have scores of chimpanzees sitting in labs. They're not being tested on, but they're still

waiting to be moved into sanctuary. This is happening even though there's a law

in place that established a federal sanctuary system to provide lifetime care for chimpanzees retired from medical research.

26 of these former research chimpanzees live in the Alma Gorto Primate facility on Hollamman Air Force Base in New Mexico.

So I asked Jean Grant, the Chief Program and Policy Officer for Animal Protection New Mexico,

to come on the show and talk about why all these years later

these chimps have still not been moved to a sanctuary and how that changes. Hi Gene.

Hi, hi to Air Elizabeth.

It's really good to have you on the show.

Thank you for being here.

Thank you.

I'm really honored.

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