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Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

Gender Wars: David Justice and Halle Berry, Plus S.A. Cosby’s ‘King of Ashes’

Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

The Ringer

Society & Culture

4.811.3K Ratings

🗓️ 12 August 2025

⏱️ 154 minutes

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Summary

Halle Berry’s ex-husband David Justice sparks a gender war after speaking on their divorce. Then, New York Times bestselling author S.A. Cosby joins to discuss his latest novel, ‘King of Ashes’. (0:00)  Intro (0:32)  Van’s Very Serious Question (20:55)  Trump deploys National Guard (25:49)  Shedeur Sanders’ NFL Debut (46:35)  Nancy Mace fact checked (58:05)  David Justice on divorcing Halle Berry  (1:33:08)  S.A. Cosby joins the show (2:04:29)  Israel-Gaza updates Host: Van Lathan Jr. and Rachel Lindsay Guest: S.A. Cosby Producer: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Ashleigh Smith Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Yo, yo, thought warriors.

0:06.0

Her learning is on.

0:07.1

By Van Lathen, Jr.

0:08.1

And it's me, Rachel and Lindsay.

0:10.0

I have a question for you.

0:11.5

Go for it.

0:13.0

Donnie and Ashley.

0:14.4

What's up?

0:15.5

I haven't been able to figure this question out even.

0:19.4

The BP, the biracial paradox.

0:22.4

We're back here.

0:23.7

We never left.

0:24.5

I just stopped bringing it up on the podcast.

0:26.5

I'm obsessed with biracial.

0:27.6

It's the way they move, where they go,

0:28.9

who they talk to.

0:29.5

Clearly.

0:30.9

Who they caught this with.

0:32.9

Is Zoe Kravitz biracial?

0:36.6

Yes.

0:37.9

Tell me why.

0:39.9

Well, both of her parents are biracial.

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