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More or Less: Behind the Stats

Gender Pay Gap

More or Less: Behind the Stats

BBC

Business, Mathematics, Science, News Commentary, News

4.63.5K Ratings

🗓️ 26 August 2016

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

The “gender pay gap” This topic has been in the news this week after the Institute for Fiscal Studies published research showing women end up 33% worse off than their male counterparts after they have children. But earlier in the summer, Fraser Nelson wrote in the Telegraph that the pay gap is “no longer an issue” for women born after 1975. Can both assessments be true? And could the label “gender pay gap” be hindering our understanding of what really lies behind the numbers?

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0:00.0

Hello, Tim Harford here.

0:01.5

Thank you very much for downloading the program.

0:03.6

This is the Longer Radio 4 edition of More or Less.

0:09.3

Hello and welcome to More or Less,

0:11.4

your ever faithful guide to the numbers all around us in the news and in life.

0:16.9

This week we'll find out when the death penalty isn't the death penalty.

0:21.6

And we'll fact check a new fact-checking website and of course

0:24.9

there is always more from the more or less desk of good news but first if you were

0:30.8

following the news earlier this week you probably heard about a study from the Institute for Fiscal Studies about the Gender Pay Gap. The big headline was that, while broadly things have been improving in recent decades, on average men still get paid more than women.

0:47.0

And according to the IFS, the pay gap widens steadily after women have a child.

0:52.0

And yet earlier in the summer, the journalist phrased deadly after women have a child.

0:52.6

And yet earlier in the summer, the journalist Fraser Nelson wrote in the Daily Telegraph

0:56.7

that when it comes to the gender pay gap, for women born after 1975, it's no longer an issue.

1:03.4

Loyal listener Peter Clark put fingers to keyboard and emailed, more or less, at BBC.co.

1:09.2

UK to ask if Fraser Nelson was right. Is it true that there's no gender pay gap for people born after

1:16.2

1975? And if so, can the IFS's claims be true as well?

1:21.2

Basically, the statistics on the gender pay gap are so various and so nuanced that almost

1:26.7

anyone can take anything out of it and say what they want.

1:30.0

This is Sheila Wilde who spent the last 36 years looking at this issue.

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She was, until a few years ago, head of Age and Earnings inequality at the Equality

1:39.4

and Human Rights Commission.

1:41.0

Well, we're not shy of a little statistical complexity here on more or less,

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