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TRIGGERnometry

Gender Clinic SHUT DOWN: Journalist Breaks Down Investigation

TRIGGERnometry

Konstantin Kisin & Francis Foster

News, Politics, Society & Culture

4.62.6K Ratings

🗓️ 20 August 2023

⏱️ 75 minutes

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Summary

Hannah Barnes is an award-winning journalist based in London. She is Investigations Producer at the BBC's flagship news and current affairs programme, Newsnight. Having led Newsnight’s investigative coverage of the controversial clinic, Barnes went on to write ‘Time to Think: The Inside Story of the Collapse of the Tavistock’s Gender Service for Children’ - available here: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/1800751117

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Stand-up comedians Konstantin Kisin (@konstantinkisin) and Francis Foster (@francisjfoster) make sense of politics, economics, free speech, AI, drug policy and WW3 with the help of presidential advisors, renowned economists, award-winning journalists, controversial writers, leading scientists and notorious comedians.

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Mental health professionals who worked at the Tabestock who undertook these assessments

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who referred some of those young people that they themselves fear that they've been part of a major medical scandal.

0:43.0

Some people say there was pressure to refer quickly because it freed up their time as clinicians

0:48.0

because the waiting list was growing and once you referred a young person to endocrinology

0:53.0

you saw them less frequently. So it freed up some clinical time.

0:57.0

We into, I mean, that's horrifying. Yeah, anyway.

1:01.0

Perhaps you get to the point that you can't change direction because what does that mean?

1:06.0

What does that mean for you as a human being to go, oh my god, I might have got this wrong

1:12.0

and I might have got it wrong for some of the most vulnerable young people there are.

1:16.0

How do we get from a handful to thousands?

1:22.0

That's a £64 million question, isn't it?

1:24.0

If I'm an ordinary person watching this, based on every time we've gone down one of these cul-de-sacs

1:30.0

we always end up with there was not enough data, they stopped collecting it.

1:34.0

I'm thinking cover up.

1:37.0

Hello and welcome to Trigonometry. I'm Frances Foster.

1:49.0

I'm Constantine Kissen. And this is a show for you if you want honest conversations with fascinating people.

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