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The reality is that today, technology is at our fingertips now. And so that time horizon has really

shrunk. And so we think about innovation, both in its everyday evolution of what needs to happen

in the payments landscape, but also what are those leapfrog moments going to be and how can we

push things further.

Avery, happy Tuesday for us. I know this podcast comes out next Monday, but great to see you.

You just got off of a very successful VCon. Give us the dish. How was it? What was the highlight

for you? How is L.A. as a market for this? Tell us everything. Sam, you absolutely need to be at the next VCon.

In Gen C, I would love to see you all to next VCon. I know I saw some of you all there.

This was year three of three of Gary's original Thomas of VCon. So the VFriends community

came out strong. The VaynerX community of sort of marketers and business folks came out really

strong too. It was an action

packed three days at LA Live. I thought this year the Vayner speakers and the V-Friends teams took it

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