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I think if you look at the history of the design team, it's also something that has always

been in collaboration with pop culture. So it's also something that has always been in collaboration

with pop culture. So there's an Andy Warhol collaboration back in the day. There's Virgilablo. So

whenever something is sort of in the zeitgeist, I think Mercedes has always been interested and

always been part of that conversation. This episode is sponsored by SAFE, the account abstraction leader on Ethereum.

Hello, Sam. How are you doing? Good, Avery. We're back again. In the words of Slim Shady. We are back. That's all I got. So, how is your day going? It is going great. I feel like spring is in full swing. A lot of cool things happening in innovation front, all directions. How about you? Are you getting ready for your big event consensus i am we are not sleeping we're burning the midnight oil as they say we're at 427 plus speakers of which you are one of very excited you're coming back again wow me and my

four 26 besties yeah exactly we're all on the telegram group chat i'm sure together and no i think

it's going to be amazing i think that there is so much happening in crypto and blockchain these days. We know consensus is where is where that happens, that discussion. It's so funny because Avery, I've had, I want to get your one minute take. I've had some conversations where people are like looking at prices and they're like, the bull, we're back. And then people who are like we still feel very much like in a bear market and it's like odd that both of those feelings can be simultaneous because even though prices are up I don't think anyone feels very comfortable right now how do you how do you look at it perception is everything and if you are in the side of like oh you're a surana max salonamara maxi, you're feeling great. If you're a

meme coin maxi, you're loving life. If you're maybe an ETH NFT, OG, you're like, you know, doom and gloom.

But these things are also starting to blend together in a really exciting and interesting way.

So I'm in the former camp. We're back, baby. I think there's so many cool things happening in the world of crypto, was just preparing something for a partner of ours on the future of finance and how

blockchain is such a big part of that. So, you know, we love to see it. I'm really bullish on sort of

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