Gaza, the U.S., and Political Divides with Nathan Stock
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4.8 • 1.9K Ratings
🗓️ 7 August 2025
⏱️ 41 minutes
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Summary
Finding Common Ground in a Divided World
What can strife in Israel and Palestine teach us about America's own political polarization? Host Curtis Chang sits down with conflict resolution expert Nathan Stock of the Carter Center to explore some of the hard truths from Middle East—and the surprising parallels here at home. From media-fueled division to the hope for bipartisan breakthroughs, Curtis and Nathan unpack how deep-rooted conflict forms—and offer pathways to bring healing and hope.
(00:01) - Navigating Conflict in the Middle East
(14:05) - Lessons from Northern Ireland and South Africa
(16:42) - Building Hope for Conflict Resolution
(25:18) - Different Brain Types and Polarization
(26:30) - Bridging Political Divides to Further U.S. Unity
(39:27) - Building Community Through Shared Stories
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Resources mentioned in this episode:
- Summary: The "Six Day War" of 1967 (U.S. Dept. of State)
- Overview: October 7, 2023 and the Israel/Hamas Conflict (U.S. Congress)
- An Explanation of The Geneva Conventions and their Commentaries (The Red Cross)
- An Explanation of The Good Friday Agreement (Associated Press)
- Remembering The Breakup of Yugoslavia (U.S. Office of the Historian)
- Abstract: Shared neural representations and temporal segmentation of political content predict ideological similarity (Science Advances)
- John R. Hibbing, Kevin B. Smith, & John R. Alford's book Predisposed: The Left, The Right, and The Biology of Political Differences
- NPR Poll: Most feel democracy is threatened and political violence is a major problem
The Carter Center's Conflict Work:
- Nathan Stock's article: There's a new silent majority — and they need to be activated
- The Carter Center's Democracy Program
- The Carter Center's Conflict Resolution Program
- The Carter Center's Conflict Resolution Reports
More In Common Studies:
- Listening Across Difference: What Americans feel, fear, and want to learn
- Interpreting young Americans' views on government, the Constitution, and the appeal of authoritarian alternatives
- The Connection Opportunity: Insights for Bringing Americans Together Across Difference
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| 0:00.0 | This episode was recorded in early July, while it explores in part the broader dynamics of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, |
| 0:09.0 | it does not reflect or respond to the most recent developments in the region. |
| 0:14.0 | There's an emerging field of research about how our brains in some ways are not only wired to polarize, we are wired |
| 0:24.6 | to identify with tribal groupings. |
| 0:26.6 | There's evidence suggesting strongly that folks who are right or left leaning have |
| 0:31.6 | somewhat different brains, that folks who lean more conservative are more sensitive to threat. |
| 0:42.5 | And folks who are more liberal leaning are more stimulated by newness. |
| 0:49.4 | When you add that into our media environments, no wonder we feel like this, right? Right. |
| 0:53.5 | You know, Welcome to the Good Faith podcast. I'm your host, Curtis Chang. |
| 1:08.7 | And the Good Faith podcast is we're friends who follow Jesus, |
| 1:12.4 | help each other make sense of the world. |
| 1:15.5 | And by goodness, there is one part of the world right now |
| 1:19.1 | that feels almost impossible to make sense of. |
| 1:22.4 | And I'm talking about the Middle East, |
| 1:23.8 | especially what is happening in Gaza. |
| 1:26.9 | It is very tempting to give up entirely the effort to try |
| 1:32.3 | to make sense of all that complexity in the world, or to just adopt one side's narrative, which |
| 1:38.7 | kind of in a wholesale manner. But it may be worth our effort to more deeply understand what is happening there, not just |
| 1:47.7 | for its own sake, which is important, but in a way also because perhaps the Middle East |
| 1:53.6 | actually has something to teach us here in America something about what's happening |
| 1:59.4 | in our society. |
| 2:00.5 | Or at least that's the argument of |
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