This is CBS, I am the World. I'm John Batcheter. My colleague and co-host Bill

Rajo, the Foundation for the Defense of Democracy's joins, and we're off to Jerusalem to visit with Seth

Fransman of the Jerusalem Post War Correspondent of the Foundation for the author of a book I highly recommend, October 7th, the war so far, right prior to the death of

Sinwar.

There will be other chapters added to Cess's book, but he tells a very good story of how we got

here especially the part that Sinwar played in concocting what is now

understood to be an outrage against civilization not just Israel the

raid of October 7th 2023.

Sinwar is gone but what now?

Seth a very good day to you in Jerusalem after Synwar, but before we get there, as I understand it,

Synwar's death was a surprise to the Israelis as well is that correct?

Hello Seth.

Yes hi hello thank you for having me.

Yeah it was a surprise I mean there was in fact Israel had kind of pulled units and redeployed units out of that area and was going into a different area of Gaza and then focused on Hezbollah.

There was some intelligence that there were high-level Hamas members in this area of Tles-Sutan which is next to Raf and southern Gaza

But it appears that they just stumbled upon him

Similah and two other men three people, and there was a clash and

Synoir ran into one house and his comrades ran into another one, and actually it took

a while to kill him. They went and sent in a drone,

and they fired on the house with the tank shells,

the house collapsed part of it.

And then they went in the next morning

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