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on the world. I am John Bachelor. I welcome Jonathan Schanser of the Foundation for the

Defense of Democracy to help me interpret headlines that are coming

in from Israel constantly that point to the larger contest, not just Gaza and Raffa, the region and the globe sometimes because major players, members of

NATO are getting involved in the conflict and there will be no end until all

of that is solved. However, Jonathan, a very good evening to you.

The headline, Israeli tanks move deeper into Rafa.

Israeli tanks move deeper into Rafa, Palestinian, say, as 450,000 flee.

I've learned from conversation with Seth

Franceman of the Jerusalem Post that the Hamas concentration in Raffafa is part of the story.

That there are Hamas killers

popping up in Jabalia and Kaunus and Zaytan

north of Rafa. Is this focus on Rafa? Don't attack Rafa or else, some capital say.

Leave off, Raf out of this, take care of the injured and the civilians, some capital say.

Is the concentration on Raffa inaccurate?

Are we looking at a Gaza wide problem that continues?

Good evening to you, Jonathan. Good evening, John, John. I think what we need to do is

differentiate between the tactical and strategic as far as the Israelis are concerned.

Strategically it's crucial for the Israelis to get a handle on Rafa.

This is the southernmost town in the Gaza Strip.

It's where the Israelis have pushed thousands of Hamas fighters.

This is basically their backs up against the wall and the Israelis do have an

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