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Gayle Rubin's "Thinking Sex" Part 2: Erasing Boundaries

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🗓️ 13 June 2022

⏱️ 104 minutes

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The New Discourses Podcast with James Lindsay, Episode 80 Thinking Sex Series, Part 2 of 3 In the previous episode of the New Discourses Podcast, host James Lindsay presented the first third of the first Queer Theory paper to have been written, Gayle Rubin's shocking 1984 essay "Thinking Sex" (https://sites.middlebury.edu/sexandsociety/files/2015/01/Rubin-Thinking-Sex.pdf). In this episode, he continues with a second part of Rubin's essay in which it becomes clear that Queer Theory is all about breaking down all boundaries and categories between acceptable and unacceptable sexual behavior using explicitly Marxist-style analysis (Queer Theory is Queer Marxism). Before getting to this section of the essay, however, James also presents a short article from 2016 explaining the fruit Queer Theory is bearing, which makes its Marxist underpinnings completely apparent. Join James to understand more about the origins of Queer Theory. Support New Discourses: paypal.me/newdiscourses newdiscourses.locals.com/support patreon.com/newdiscourses subscribestar.com/newdiscourses youtube.com/channel/UC9K5PLkj0N_b9JTPdSRwPkg/join Website: https://newdiscourses.com Follow: facebook.com/newdiscourses twitter.com/NewDiscourses instagram.com/newdiscourses https://newdiscourses.locals.com pinterest.com/newdiscourses linkedin.com/company/newdiscourses minds.com/newdiscourses reddit.com/r/NewDiscourses © 2022 New Discourses. All rights reserved. Image usage: Gerard Koskovich, CC BY 3.0 [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Gayle_Rubin.jpg], via Wikimedia Commons

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0:00.0

Music

0:20.0

Hello and welcome back to the new Discourses Podcasts.

0:22.7

We're doing a little series to read through Gail Rubens' 1984 essay called

0:30.0

Thinking Sex. Notes for a radical theory of the politics of sexuality.

0:36.0

The reason we're reading through this is because it's the first queer theory paper.

0:40.3

So we've spent a lot of time talking about critical race theory. Everybody now is very aware of

0:45.3

so-called gender ideology, trans ideology, trans genderism has lots of names.

0:52.6

I like gender Marxism and queer Marxism, frankly. Some of us are becoming familiar and comfortable

0:57.4

with the words queer theory. And so it's good to look at the roots. And so in the previous

1:03.3

episode of the podcast and in the series, we read the first a little more than a third of this essay.

1:11.0

And we saw the roots of queer theory. The roots of queer theory include Gail Rubens giving

1:16.5

kind of peculiar defenses for things like child pornography. It's an odd thing to defend.

1:22.1

Communism. Yet another odd thing to defend in a paper about a radical politics of sexuality.

1:27.3

Man boy love or she calls it cross generational encounters, which we also uncovered is very clearly,

1:38.9

by the way, that she says that people treat them is very clearly a euphemism for pedophilia.

1:45.3

Because even where you have like a Hugh Hefner character with his 20-year-old bunnies as in his 80s,

1:50.9

you don't get the level of revulsion that she indicates. And certainly not where you would have

1:55.8

like a 40 or a 50-year-old cross generationally meeting up with a 20-something. People might think it's

2:02.1

inappropriate. People might even think it's a gross. But what you don't have is the kind of reaction

2:07.6

that she describes, which involves words like horror. I'll see if I can find that again very quickly

2:14.2

where she says that. It's trying to scroll up. Unmodulated horrors, incapable of involving

2:20.9

affection, love, free choice, kindness, or transcendence. Nobody believes that there is a 24-year-old

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