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recaps of the key ideas in each interview, but at the end of the series, you'll receive our free life of purpose ebook. What you have to do is go to unmistakablecreative.com slash life purpose. Again, that's unmistakable creative.com slash life purpose. Gotham, welcome to the unmistakable creative. Thanks so much for taking the time to join us. Thanks so much for inviting me. This was a, this is a, I've been something I've been looking

forward to for a while and I'm, I can't wait to get started. Yeah, likewise, you have a book out called Picking Presidents, which I just finished reading. And even though I'm not particularly interested in politics, the book was fascinating because it, I think, was about far more than just how we choose presidents, but how we

choose leaders in general. But before we get into all of that, I wanted to start by asking you,

what did your parents do for work? And how did that end up influencing what you've ended up doing

with your life and career? A lot. Okay. So my father is, they're both retired now, but my father

was an engineer with the, for most of my life,

with the government, with the first department of the Navy and the Department of Energy.

And he focused on the Department of Energy on sort of working on nuclear waste reprocessing.

So building facilities that take care of, say, the nuclear power, the waste from building

nuclear weapons and reprocessing can make them safe.

So that was what he worked on.

And so my mom is a nuclear physicist who spent her entire career consulting for NASA. Wow. Yeah. So she got her PhD in nuclear physics when she was 22. And do you ever see the Martian? Yeah. The Matt Damon movie. Yeah. The Matt Damon movie. Yeah. So there's a scene in the Martian where he goes and grabs a space, like one old Mars rover and uses the power source to heat his vehicle.

So that was my mom's last mission.

She helped to design that.

And in fact, he flew down to see the launch because that was her last mission.

And so I remember when she saw the Martian, I got like a five-page technical analysis of everything.

Wow.

Okay.

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