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The New Yorker: Fiction

Garth Greenwell Reads Jean Stafford

The New Yorker: Fiction

WNYC Studios and The New Yorker

Yorker, Wnyc, Literature, Books, New, Fiction, Arts

4.63.6K Ratings

🗓️ 1 November 2019

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

Garth Greenwell joins Deborah Treisman to read and discuss “The Shorn Lamb,” by Jean Stafford, which appeared in a 1953 issue of the magazine. Greenwell is a fiction writer, poet, and critic. His first novel, “What Belongs to You,” was published in 2016, and won the British Book Award for Debut of the Year. A new book of fiction, “Cleanness,” will be published in January.

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0:00.0

This is the New Yorker Fiction Podcast from the New Yorker magazine.

0:08.4

I'm Deborah Treesman, fiction editor at The New Yorker.

0:11.4

Each month we invite a writer to choose a story from the magazine's archives to read and discuss.

0:16.4

This month, on our 150th episode of The Podcast, we're going to hear The Shorn Lamb by Gene Stafford,

0:23.0

which was published in the New Yorker in January of 1953.

0:26.9

At the thought of her mother's golden hair in the fire light and the smell of her perfume in the

0:32.4

intimate warmth, and the sound of her voice saying, isn't this gay Miss Baby? The tears came faster.

0:41.6

For in her heavy heart, Hannah felt certain that now her hair was cut off,

0:46.7

her mother would never want to sit so close to her again.

0:50.5

The story was chosen by Garth Greenwell, whose first novel, What Belongs To You, was published in 2016.

0:56.6

His second book of fiction, Cleanness, will come out in January.

1:00.4

Hi, Garth.

1:01.2

Hi, Deborah.

1:03.5

So, can you tell me what made you choose a story by Gene Stafford to read today?

1:09.2

You know, I am a late discoverer of Gene Stafford. I studied poetry for most of my,

1:17.0

really for most of my life. And Gene Stafford was to me horrifyingly only Robert Lowell's first

1:27.6

wife. And I picked her up recently and, you know, I am a convert and have a convert's enthusiasm.

1:36.5

I just think she's extraordinary.

1:39.5

What is it that defines her for you?

1:42.3

So, there's this remarkable ability that she has to balance this kind of lacerating irony

1:55.2

with a very plangent pathos. And that's a combination that I find very few writers get right.

2:04.8

I mean, I think she faces up to, you know, this very, very brutal sense of how people treat one

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