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Garrett Graff: "Russia Sought Division More Than Victory"

The Gist

Mike Pesca

News, Politics, Arts, Daily News

4.43.6K Ratings

🗓️ 16 September 2025

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

Garrett Graff, host of the Long Shadow podcast,  argues that Russia's 2016 interference was about sowing distrust in U.S. democracy—weakening Clinton if she won, or destabilizing the system either way.  He revisits the Access Hollywood–email leak overlap, the forgotten U.S. warning about Russian meddling, and how other nations have since borrowed the playbook. Also: JD Vance's opportunistic definition of "the far left," an Oval Office push for troops in Memphis, and a Booker–Kash Patel shouting match.

Produced by Corey Wara


Production Coordinator Ashley Khan


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And it's called the gist list the other days a week.

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And it's going behind the paywall some of

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it is so we're going to have to charge you but i want to charge you less but when i say i don't know

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what happens it's like the classic system of tubes and here i am on a podcast which i don't really

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understand either i get what the inputs and the outputs are. And I understand that you get a text

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message with a link. And this link will take you to Mike pesca.substack.com. And 25% off is cool. But really,

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from podcast to text to substack, I don't understand any of the nuts and bolts. Are there bolts?

0:54.0

Are there even bolts involved?

0:55.9

I do understand texting Mike to 33-777 for 25% off the gist list.

1:07.2

It's Tuesday, September 16th, 2025.

1:10.7

From Peachfish Productions, it's the gist. I'm Mike Peska.

1:14.0

As was clear what happened, the administration has used the assassination of Charlie Kirk

1:18.4

to launch a crackdown on what they define as the far left.

1:22.3

What is the far left? I think it's whatever they say it is.

1:25.3

Stephen Miller, speaking in the Oval Office, talked about NGOs, which fund rioters.

1:30.9

Huge of true, and I say at the very least, let's take away their nonprofit status.

1:35.8

J.D. Vance defined the far less differently in different ways at different times

1:40.2

while hosting the Charlie Kirk Show yesterday.

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