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Gallipoli Part Two: The Forging of The Anzacs

Fascinating People Fascinating Places

Daniel Mainwaring

Documentary, Society & Culture:documentary, History, Society & Culture

51.1K Ratings

🗓️ 30 April 2022

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

The Anzac landings in Gallipoli quickly descend into chaos as Braund and other commanders try to lead their men to victory against overwhelming odds. In this episode, I explore the story of the tragic tale of George Braund, Henry Edward White, and so many others. I interview two experts in the field: Brad Manera, and Ian Hodges, who provide fascinating insights into the battle, the legacy of Gallipoli, and how it helped forge the Anzac and Australian identities. With thanks to: Brad Manera, Senior Historian, and Curator of The Anzac Memorial Ian Hodges, Historian from the Australian Department of Veteran’s Affairs Advance Australia Fair recorded 1915, courtesy of The British Zonophone Company. Public Domain Herbert Asquith recording 1909. Public Domain Simon Jackson as the voice of Lt William Malone Jack Timothy as the voice of the government clerk Sound Effect from Pixabay National Archives of Australia

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Fascinating people,

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people, fascinating places.

0:05.0

G'day and welcome to the Dan Mainwearing podcast.

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This is where we talk to and about the famous and the infamous,

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The celebrated and the obscure,

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the well known and the undiscovered.

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Interviews, articles and discussions from around the globe. On the

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joyful things and let us sing

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advance on

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advance Australia. On the 25th of April, 1915, Lieutenant Colonel Brown, the Ozzy politician and his men,

0:41.4

including London-born Bugler Henry White make landfall at Gallipoli.

0:47.0

Brad Manera, senior historian and curator of the Anzac Memorial describes the scene.

0:53.0

Really enthusiastic and courageous soldiers

0:57.0

with a minimum of training, no combat experience,

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and an absolutely ferocious enemy.

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It's just a recipe for disaster and we know that this is the tragedy that killed your relative, indeed killed mine and George Braun. Another British-born Anzak, Lieutenant William Malone of New Zealand's Wellington Infantry

1:28.3

Battalion, leads his men ashore and soon runs into Colonel Brown's men as he recorded in his diary.

1:35.0

I got to Colonel Brown who said he was in command of the show.

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I asked for some explanation of the position and why he had called for reinforcements from the New

1:44.9

Zealanders. He didn't know and knew nothing. He had no defensive position, no plan, nothing but

1:51.6

a murderous notion that the only thing to do was to plunge troops out of the neck of the ridge into the jungle beyond.

1:59.0

He said that the truth was he feared that if he didn't go on his men would run away. I said that was no reason

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