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Matter of Opinion

Gaetz and Gabbard and R.F.K. Jr. — Oh, My!

Matter of Opinion

New York Times Opinion

Society & Culture, Ross Douthat, News, New York Times, Journalism

4.27.2K Ratings

🗓️ 15 November 2024

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

As nominees roll in, the reality of Donald Trump’s second administration is rapidly coming into focus. This week, Ross is joined by Opinion columnist David French to discuss the surprising picks and what they signal about the incoming president’s policy shifts this time around.

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0:00.0

Wait, do I have to laugh if it's not funny?

0:03.0

You don't have to laugh, no.

0:04.5

Oh, okay.

0:05.1

This is not some, like, Stalinist dictatorship.

0:07.8

This is not Mar-a-Lago.

0:09.4

Express your true opinions.

0:14.3

From New York Times opinion, I'm Ross Douthat, and this is a matter of opinion.

0:30.6

Okay. Ross Douthit. And this is matter of opinion. I'm joined this week by my colleague and fellow columnist David French.

0:35.4

Hey, David.

0:36.4

Ross, it's great to be with you.

0:38.1

I'm so glad you could be with me because this is kind of a funny situation.

0:42.4

We actually, yes, you can laugh.

0:45.3

Yeah, no, I'm already laughing, Ross.

0:47.0

I'm already laughing.

0:48.0

God laughs at all podcasting plans.

0:50.6

And so apparently just Donald Trump, because we actually taped an entire matter-of-opinion

0:56.5

episode earlier this week, talking about what a second Trump administration might look like

1:02.1

with a lot of discussion of what was then a rush of White House cabinet appointments and

1:07.0

nominations. But then no sooner had we finished taping the episode, then President-elect

1:13.0

Trump announced two more really big ones, Florida Congressman Matt Gates for Attorney General,

1:20.5

and former Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard for Director of National Intelligence. And we thought

1:25.8

we had to talk about this. And unfortunately, Carlos and Michelle are, you know, have escaped to a beach somewhere, I assume. So I was left alone, but I knew I could count on you, David, with your law and foreign policy background and your deep devotion to Matt Gates to talk about these picks in particular and what they say about how Trump intends to govern.

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