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Political Gabfest

Gabfest Reads | Finding Connection in the Aftermath of History’s Horrors

Political Gabfest

Slate Podcasts

Politics, Government, News

4.58.3K Ratings

🗓️ 18 January 2025

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

Emily Bazelon talks with author Yael van der Wouden about her debut novel, The Safekeep. They discuss why Yael chose a queer love story, how Yael’s own Dutch and Jewish heritage influenced her writing, the history of dispossession after World War II, and more.  Tweet us your questions @SlateGabfest or email us at [email protected]. (Messages could be quoted by name unless the writer stipulates otherwise.) Podcast production by Cheyna Roth. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:27.7

Hello and welcome to GabFest Reeds for the month of January.

0:31.2

I'm Emily Bazelon, one of the co-hosts of Slate's Political GabFest.

0:35.2

I am here today to talk about the new novel The Safe Keep with its author,

0:41.4

Jaelle Fundervout. Hi, Aal, thanks so much for joining us. Thank you so much, Emily. Such an honor to be

0:49.8

here. When I read The Safe Keep, all I knew about it pretty much was that a good friend of mine and my sister recommended it, and it had been shortlisted for the Booker Prize.

1:01.7

But I didn't know a single thing about the book.

1:05.1

And I actually loved entering it that way.

1:08.7

This is a book that has a kind of haunting at the center of it.

1:12.6

And so we're going to talk about the whole book, but I really recommend that listeners read

1:17.9

this book before listening to this entire conversation because I did really thrill to the

1:25.4

feelings of discovery I had as I was going through the narrative. And I think,

1:29.8

Al, you very carefully and deliberately kind of constructed the book to have a kind of mystery at

1:35.8

the center of it. So let's start so we don't spoil the whole mystery up top by talking about

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