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This is reasons to be cheerful with Ed Millivand and Jeff Lloyd.

Well, hello. Well, hello. I wanted to offer you congratulations because you sent me a photograph

of your latest culinary creation and Ed, it looked so good. I would say it looked professional level.

Yes. It did. It was some kind of tofu, asparagus, soy,

that was a shell-ops. That was a picture from the New York Times website.

I know. You see you're saying you screen-grabbed what it should look like from the New York Times.

No, I was just sending you the recipe. It's actually showing.

No, you just sent a photograph. I wasn't pretending that it was my... Well, you weren't

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