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Today's episode from The Silo originally aired on July 10th, 2023. We hope you enjoy. Hi and welcome back to Foreign Office I'm Michael Weiss director of special

investigations at the Free Russia Foundation and senior correspondent at

Yahoo News. This week I'm very pleased to announce that we are joined by a friend of mine and I think one of the finest diplomats I've ever talked to about not just Ukraine but European security.

He is Ambassador Kaimo Kusk he is the Estonian ambassador to Ukraine

for two more weeks which unfortunately Ukraine's loss is going to be Lithuania's gain because he's going to become Estonia's

ambassador to Vilnius, where as of tomorrow, I'm recording this on July 10th, there's a huge

native summit taking place at which a host of issues will be discussed including Sweden's somewhat stalled membership to the alliance, but not least of all all also Ukraine's prospect for eventually

joining NATO and so I thought who better to have on than the forthcoming Estonian

ambassador to Lithuania we're gonna talk about a host of issues, but the first thing,

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