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as a ministry. Thank you. Yeah, this is your live, Matt. I'm live. Okay, she wants something.

Oh, I was going to bring mine. Well, you funny. My thing that frustrates me about this is how they

will twist around on each of themselves. I have like a half size one. It's just right. Have you ever

seen a little strovka? No. Come on. That's what the old Russian Orthodox use. This looks serious.

This looks like for like really, really serious and like licorice. It does. I should show my husband.

He's like a big black licorice fan. Oh, we do. No, mine. I also like, maybe this is not holy,

but I cut off the the fringe part because it's just annoying. I have not used that to wipe my

teeth. No, I'm not going to start now. Listen, every time I go up to venerate the icon

when I get to church, this is my prayer. Lord, you know, I'm never going to get this right, right?

Like, you know, I'm never going to do it right. So I just kind of have a little chuckle

with the Lord and he understands and I proceed. Beautiful. Well, thanks for coming on the show. I met

you because you were part of my local community. Yeah. And I don't, I kind of, I mean, I know your

story a little bit, but I forget what led to this. I know that we were chatting and I was really

inspired by what we were chatting about that you'd become an Orthodox Christian last year.

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