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The Bunker

From UFC to MAGA – How fight sports shaped Trump’s macho politics

The Bunker

Podmasters

News, Politics, Society & Culture, Government

4.6984 Ratings

🗓️ 23 May 2025

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

Donald Trump is obsessed with sport – and increasingly, sports stars are obsessed with him. From his ties to wrestling through to his connection to the UFC, fight sports in particular have shaped the way he approaches politics. To discuss this journey, Jacob Jarvis is joined by Tom Kludt, a contributing editor at Vanity Fair, who recently wrote a piece headlined A Guide to Donald Trump’s Jockocracy: 100 Days of Sports and Politics. • We are sponsored by Indeed. Go to https://indeed.com/bunker for £100 sponsored credit.   www.patreon.com/bunkercast  Follow us on BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/bunkerpod.bsky.social  Written and presented by Jacob Jarvis. Producer: Liam Tait. Audio editors: Sara Farolfi. Managing editor: Jacob Jarvis. Music by Kenny Dickinson. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Get started today at banta.com. Donald Trump has a long history of being obsessed with sports.

1:01.4

He's tried very unsuccessfully to buy NFL teams in the past,

1:04.9

and he played American football in his younger days when he attended the New York Military Academy.

1:10.0

This obsession has continued into his political

1:12.4

era and in a TV appearance with Dr. Oz in the run-ups of the 2016 election, he said,

1:17.8

I'm a big believer in the whole world of sports with his usual brand of emphatic vagueness.

1:23.4

Then, since returning to the White House, he's been spotted at the UFC, he's had visits from

1:27.4

Super Bowl winners, and he's played golf on 24 occasions.

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At least, that's how many times he's played it at the time of recording.

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So, how does this obsession shape his worldview and approach to politics?

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I'm Jacob Jarvis, and joining me to discuss this in The Bunker is Tom Clute, a contributing editor

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at Vanity Fair,

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