And boom, we're on.

And today's guest, we've got Terry Calter.

Terry, how are you?

Fine, thank you, chance yourself how are you fine thank you chance yourself

really well thank you you're here to speak for lee murray yeah who's over in morocco he's doing a

25thage for the 53 million pound robbery he's been a lot of people are saying hard done by he got 10

years before it was too lenient. They've given 25.

There's a crazy world. Everyone's out there dropping Lee's name. I don't know how legit they are or how close they are to them, but you've got it through the horse's mouth that you're here to

actually speak for Lee. But you're probably seeing videos yourself with people now mentioning

him and speaking about him. It brings views, but we're living

in a day and age of guys trying to get out and other people are using his name. Unfortunately,

yeah, there's a lot of people out there talking nonsense really because there's a couple of guys

out there talking about, oh, he spoke to me about the robbery, he done this, he done that. They don't know nothing about it.

Lee was a very personal guy.

I mean, I was round Lee at the time.

I was training Lee.

I didn't even know he was doing it.

I don't think his own parents knew.

That was Lee.

Personal.

So all these guys that are on there talking this nonsense, really?

Should you be to me they're just plastic gangsters want them to try and make a name for themselves and really it's wrong because

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