Welcome to the Andy Stanley Leadership Podcast. A conversation designed to help leaders

go further faster. On today's podcast, Andy will talk to an exceptional leader about

a challenge that far too many leaders face along. Well, Andy's we get started. Why don't

we introduce our guests to the podcast audience? Yeah, I bet Jeff Henderson is not a stranger

to some of our podcast audience. Jeff's actually been with us, working with us for 11 years.

Andy came in as a group's director, which outside of our context won't make any sense,

but what you will understand is we started a church in Buckhead years ago. It came in

helped us establish Buckhead Church. I started in a grocery store, three services, four services,

five services, a few hundred people that grew now to, you know, over 7,000 people all

in or there. I oversaw the construction of that, developed the staff, he's an excellent

communicator, and then just as things, just as he got it perfect, I said, Jeff, you are

so good at launching new initiatives. I like to pull you out of your comfort zone and

all this incredible organization you've built and start over. And he was up for that.

And so three years ago, he left Buckhead Church and established Gwinnett Church as a church

north of our city. And once again, growing like crazy, overseeing the construction of

another, yet another facility, a little bit closer to home this time. So it's just an extraordinary

leader. And then as you'll discover as we talk about our topic today, before coming to

us, he was with Chick-fil-A, director of sports marketing, beverage marketing, has some

extraordinary and business stories. And one of the great things Jeff brings to our organization

is not only business experience, but business experience as a business leader, manager coming

from an extraordinary organization, Chick-fil-A. And so, you know, he's brought some of their

culture to us, lots of great insight. And maybe not best of all, but I considered an asset.

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