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Hi, I'm Riley Fessler, producer of the DSR Network of podcasts. This week's episode of From the Silo comes from September 2022.

We're Norman Kavita, discuss the intersection of foreign and domestic policy, as well as several other issues that we're still feeling the effects of today.

The episode also features originally members only content, so if you want more like this every week, please become a member. Enjoy.

This is Words Matter with Norm Ornstein.

Reaching this deal is really, really big. And Dr. Kavita Patel.

That's what the United States does. Hello and welcome to Words Matter from the DSR Network.

Each week, Norm Ornstein and I will talk about the issues facing our country as we head into the midterms and what our leaders are saying and doing about them.

So today we've got an action-packed podcast more than usual. We're going to try to hit a number of topics.

We wanted to cover just a touch on the railroad strike, railroad workers strike and just some of the recent developments.

Also want to hit on a number of international matters. Certainly Ukraine and Russia dominate the international headlines, but there are so many forces globally that are affecting anybody's day to day lives, even without them realizing.

And then finally in our bonus content, we'll spend some time talking about this incredible debate literally and figuratively between Federman and Oz, the candidates for the United States Senate in Pennsylvania and how that is turning out to be a bit of a cluster for a lot of reasons that have most of it to do with amendment Oz and some of it to do with the media coverage of Oz and Federman.

So with that, let's get started, Norm. I think there's so many things that are happening and we recently spoke with one of your colleagues, Michael strain, just about the economic outlook overall and touched on a number of labor issues, but that has really come to a boil with just recent not only threats around a railroad strike for workers, especially operators engineers, which would literally bring the country's transit to a halt, not just to people, but of the products.

And of a reprieve and I'll just offer I'm curious to all extent on your take on this, I will just offer having worked on labor issues in the Senate for Ted Kennedy.

When I read about what some of the basic concerns were, that is that operators and engineers outside of like paid time off, which they only had a certain number of weeks, that they were expected to be 24-7 on call.

And that if they didn't show up on call, they had a point system, which is actually what many large employers have moved to, where points would be deducted for them to not show up when they had less than even two hours notice to show up for work on an emergency basis.

It actually reminded me, there are many things about medicine that are quite cool and still exists that should not.

This is actually one of those things that we gave up a long time ago, we knew that it wasn't humane for the patients or for the clinicians to actually expect people to take 24-7 call.

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