From The Silo: A Far Cry from Helsinki: Biden and Putin to Set "Guardrails" and Manage Expectations

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Chris Cotnoir

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🗓️ 26 February 2023

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Originally Aired: June 15, 2021 When Vladimir Putin sits down with Joe Biden, both men will be well familiar with each other and Putin will have no illusions that he can toy with the new American president like he could with the last one. Joe Biden has been working at a high level in US foreign policy since 1973 (when Leonid Brezhnev was General Secretary of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union.) As Biden's Europe trip has demonstrated this past week, he is a savvy foreign policy professional who knows how to pull the levers of diplomacy behind the scenes. If not every speech is a barn burner, the results so far outstrip those of all his recent predecessors in their first years in office. We discuss the Putin meeting with David Sanger of the New York Times, who is traveling with the president, and Evelyn Farkas, former senior Obama Administration official and Russia specialist. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hello and welcome to a special edition of Deep State Radio. I'm your host David Rothbeth coming
0:04.4	to you from somewhere outside of New York City. Our friend and the intrepid reporter for the New
0:11.2	York Times David Sanger is in Geneva, Switzerland following the president. I think he's just gotten off
0:18.4	of Air Force one literally and been at a background briefing. Where are we right now in the run-up
0:26.3	to the Biden Putin summit, David? Well, we're in a really interesting part of the pre-game show.
0:36.6	Let me tell you what we learned and actually the background briefing was on Air Force one.
0:41.0	It was done by a senior administration official who came back to tell us a little bit about what
0:45.6	the atmosphere will look like tomorrow, but not very much about what Biden's going to go say the
0:52.4	Putin. I've got some other reporting on that. So let me just start off with the atmosphere.
1:00.4	They're going to meet at about one o'clock in the afternoon at a wonderful old pile of Swiss
1:07.1	palace. The president of the Swiss Confederacy is going to be there likely like the sumo
1:17.2	Shinto priest judge who sort of steps in to referee on all of this, but then he will withdraw.
1:26.9	And we're expecting that this will go four or five hours, maybe longer. Initially, it's going to be
1:34.0	just the president and Putin and each of their foreign ministry, Secretary of State,
1:40.4	Tony Blinken, and Sergei Lavrov, the one-time Russian foreign minister. And then it's going to
1:48.1	expand five on each side. So the national security advisor, Jake Sullivan will come in some other
1:56.4	NSC officials as well. Traditionally, David, these have all been about basically controlling nuclear
2:06.7	weapons and then working out other parts of the relationship. And then for a while in the
2:12.7	Yeltsinira and a little beyond, it was about whether or not you could integrate Russia with the west.
2:22.0	And this one is going to be a bit about nuclear weapons and strategic stability, but it's really
2:27.9	going to be about how we're going to avoid spinning into a really serial cyber conflict.
2:34.8	And I think it's fair to say that this is the first Soviet or Russian US summit
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