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For The Love With Jen Hatmaker Podcast

From The Church to The Pride Parade: Sara Cunningham with Free Mom Hugs

For The Love With Jen Hatmaker Podcast

Jen Hatmaker

Society & Culture, Relationships

4.6 • 6.4K Ratings

🗓️ 14 June 2023

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

We’re back for more of our Being Seen and Heard series! In a time where it feels like we are struggling to really see and hear one another, there are some bright lights who make it their mission to help one another understand each other a little better. Our guest today, Sara Cunningham, the founder of FreeMomHugs.org, is one amazing example of what can happen when we really see people for who they are and begin to hear their stories. Sara was on the show right at the beginning of her journey with Free Mom Hugs, and now the org—which started with the simple idea of attending Pride parades and holding up a sign that said “Free Mom Hugs,”—has become a national and world wide phenomenon. She uses her own experience as a guide to how she advocates, and is absolutely passionate about connecting with faith, civic, business, and government leaders in efforts to make the world a kinder safer place for our LGBTQIA+ family.   Sara and Jen touch on these topics: Sara’s roots in conservative evangelicalism and how she found herself moving “from the church to the pride parade” after she reckoned with her son’s admission that he was gay and going to live in his identity  The stories of people who, after coming out, lost their families, were kicked out of their churches, and felt completely alone and found solace and comfort in the simple act of a mom extending a hug Sara’s son Parker’s (as well as her own) journey of self-discovery and then coming to live authentically after seeing others, who had come out in faith environments, survive and thrive after loss  How we can affect change with our voices as it relates to legislation that targets the LGBTQIA+ community * * * Thank you to our sponsors! BetterHelp | Visit betterhelp.com/forthelove to save 10% on your first month! MeCourse: LGBTQIA+ | LGBTQIA+ Parenting e-course from Jen and special guests is available for order. Visit https://www.mecourse.org/lgbtqia-parenting for more info. FOCL | Visit https://focl.com/ and use code FORTHELOVE at checkout for 20% off of your purchase Thought-Provoking Quotes: “I remember there was a time, at the beginning of that journey, I call from the church to the pride parade. It was like reality was setting in. The bubble that I was in, the evangelical conservative mainstream bubble that I was in where everyone looked like me and talked like me, had just shattered. And I wanted to take a banner and put it outside of my house on the front door, like, welcome to the real world. And suddenly it's like my eyes are truly open.” - Sara Cunningham “I think about [my son] Parker early on in his journey of self-discovery and then coming to live authentically. He had people in his life that had survived the loss, who had survived being outed, kicked out of their place of worship and losing their family. Just seeing them go beyond that and thriving and having a place of their own and working and contributing to society; he saw people that had faced what he feared and then came out on the other side of it.” - Sara Cunningham  “Our mission statement is that we empower the world to celebrate the community through visibility, education, and conversation.” - Sara Cunningham, about FreeMomHugs.org Resources Mentioned in This Episode: Mama Bears FTL Episode ft. Sydney Hatmaker  Kai Shappley’s Website Free Mom Hugs Revolution Conference Kimberly Shappley’s Website Glennon Doyle’s Website How We Sleep at Night: A Mother’s Memoir by Sara Cunningham Good Friend with Jamie Lee Curtis ft Sara Cunningham HRC Oklahoma ACLU Oklahoma Freedom Oklahoma Guest’s Links: FreeMomHugs Website FreeMomHugs Facebook FreeMomHugs Instagram FreeMomHugs Twitter FreeMomHugs Youtube Connect with Jen! Jen’s website Jen’s InstagramJen’s Twitter Jen’s FacebookJen’s YouTube   To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hey everybody, Jin Hatmaker here, your host of the For the Love podcast.

0:07.9

You guys welcome to the show.

0:09.9

We are in the series I love right now called for the love of being seen and heard.

0:16.6

I don't even know if I need to add any comment on that.

0:20.5

Just feels like what the world is missing right now, that we are struggling to see one

0:25.6

another to hear one another, that there are entire people groups who are being mischaracterized

0:30.9

or misunderstood and the simple practice of seeing and hearing one another might just

0:37.9

be the cure.

0:39.3

So the topic that we're broaching today is one amazing example of what can happen when

0:47.1

we really see people for who they are and begin to hear their stories.

0:52.1

And we decide to open up our hearts and our minds to people living a different experience

0:59.4

from us perhaps and allow ourselves to consider their perspective, to consider their stories

1:07.4

and their challenges the way they show up in the world and in turn become more compassionate

1:17.5

and less fearful of those differences.

1:19.6

Gosh, it's literally what I want for the whole world right now.

1:23.4

So for today, while obviously acceptance of the LGBTQ plus community is growing, like

1:31.8

literally all around the world, we have so much more work to do in order to address and

1:40.9

reverse the, I mean centuries of marginalization this group has endured.

1:48.8

The businesses, churches, families, we can all be a part of lifting up the diverse and

1:56.2

inclusive stories embedded in this amazing community.

2:00.3

And while it is true that LGBTQ plus representation is reaching all time highs and some respects,

2:07.0

there is still obviously a need to tell way more stories about their lives with recent

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