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The Audio Long Read

From the archive: The revolt against liberalism: what’s driving Poland and Hungary’s nativist turn?

The Audio Long Read

The Guardian

Society & Culture

4.32.4K Ratings

🗓️ 19 March 2025

⏱️ 39 minutes

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We are raiding the Guardian Long Read archives to bring you some classic pieces from years past, with new introductions from the authors. This week, from 2021: For the hardline conservatives ruling Poland and Hungary, the transition from communism to liberal democracy was a mirage. They fervently believe a more decisive break with the past is needed to achieve national liberation By Nicholas Mulder. Read by Tanya Cubric. Help support our independent journalism at theguardian.com/longreadpod

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Hi, I'm Nicholas Milder, and I'm the author of The Revolt Against Liberalism,

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What's Driving Poland and Hungary's Nativist Turn, which was published in the Guardian Long Read in 2021.

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I wrote this story at a time when many people were trying to take stock of what had happened in Eastern and Central Europe in the three decades since the fall of the Iron Curtain in

1:20.3

1989. And it was a moment of reflection to ask, where has Eastern Europe come from? What is the

1:26.9

balance sheet after 30 years? And this was before

1:29.7

the war in Ukraine. And the thing that really stood out at the time was that while many countries

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had gotten a lot richer, they hadn't necessarily all embraced Western liberal politics.

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And Poland, which was then under the Law and Justice Party of the Kaczynski government,

1:43.5

and Hungary under

1:44.7

Viktor Orban, were the two most prominent states that had really turned away from liberalism.

1:50.9

So I was drawn to this story because these seemed to be things that didn't really match the

1:56.4

standard narrative that we had in the West of an end of history, a convergence on liberal norms.

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