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🗓️ 21 September 2022
⏱️ 46 minutes
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0:00.0 | This is the Guardian. |
0:10.2 | Hi, I'm Matthew Luxmo. |
0:12.2 | I'm a correspondent based in Ukraine for the Wall Street Journal. |
0:17.6 | And I'm the author of the Guardian Long Read titled, |
0:21.3 | Pulse Apart, The Bitter Conflict of a Nations Communist History. |
0:25.0 | The article is about the way that Poland's history and in particular its communist legacy |
0:33.6 | had at the time become a flashpoint with Russia, which was seeking to bolster the legacy of its role |
0:41.9 | in fighting fascism in World War II and later as it describes it liberating Eastern Europe |
0:48.4 | from fascism. I grew up in Poland and I always remembered as a child walking past these |
0:54.1 | gargantuan communist monuments in Warsaw called monuments of gratitude. They were in many ways |
1:00.8 | an embodiment of Moscow's abiding influence in the region and there was a growing push to get rid |
1:05.9 | of them that was in turn an evidence of the extent to which the mood in Poland had changed. |
1:13.1 | When I began to report from Russia as a journalist and cover the annexation of Crimea in 2014, |
1:19.2 | I saw how memory of World War II was being harnessed as a kind of symbolic foundation for Russia's |
1:25.2 | actions in Ukraine, justifying the sham referendum that led to Crimea's annexation as kind of a way |
1:31.9 | to protect Russian speakers from what Moscow called the Nazis ruling Ukraine. |
1:37.1 | Very much the narrative that the Kremlin is using to justify the full scale water taking place today. |
1:42.4 | What we're seeing at the moment is this campaign by Russia to, as it would put a defend |
1:51.0 | its role in World War II which Russia believes is undermined by the West or not recognized to the |
1:59.5 | extent that it should be, it's reached really dangerous levels today. The themes that were covered |
2:06.9 | in this article I think explain in many ways why this narrative was growing so entrenched in |
2:14.9 | Russia and why the state was so keen to roll it out because in many ways it would be used much |
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