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🗓️ 23 July 2025
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0:00.0 | This is The Guardian. |
0:08.7 | The Guardian Archive Long Read. |
0:19.7 | Hi, I'm Poppy C. Bagmonte, Fefuri, and I wrote how two BBC journalists risk their jobs to reveal the truth about Jimmy Saville. |
0:29.6 | And that was published in 2021. |
0:33.0 | One of the reasons that I really wanted to write this story is because I'm really interested in the ways that our minds change. |
0:41.8 | And I don't mean just as individuals, but I mean as collectives and as a culture and as society. |
0:47.6 | And I think this story is really about a mental shift. |
0:51.0 | Because before this story takes place, the whole culture thinks one way about what we then |
0:59.2 | think of as celebrity sex scandals. They're tabloid news stories. They're really about this powerful |
1:07.2 | man who is behaving badly. And what happens during the process of Liz McKean and |
1:15.5 | Myrian Jones trying to get this story out on news night and failing to being stopped by their |
1:21.9 | editors and then eventually kind of pushing it out by other means and very publicly revealing to the nation and beyond |
1:30.4 | how difficult that was the structures that were in place to protect powerful men and the structures |
1:37.4 | that were in our minds to stop us that meant that we saw these stories as about these powerful |
1:43.0 | men rather than about the women who |
1:45.6 | were being abused. So I think, you know, we've seen since the Saville story broke, |
1:52.5 | just such a huge change in the culture on this subject. And I wanted to go back and find that |
1:57.7 | very moment where that change began to happen. And especially because that |
2:05.5 | change was started by individuals, very few individuals with a lot of courage and a lot of grit. |
2:12.9 | And Liz McKean was prepared to risk everything to get this story out. And she did risk a lot, |
2:21.7 | but she made it happen. And she's a hero. And I'd not seen her story told either. |
2:29.3 | So in the few years since I wrote this piece, I think we've seen more of a backlash to this movement |
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