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The Audio Long Read

From the archive: how two BBC journalists risked their jobs to reveal the truth about Jimmy Savile

The Audio Long Read

The Guardian

Society & Culture

4.32.4K Ratings

🗓️ 23 July 2025

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

We are raiding the Guardian long read archives to bring you some classic pieces from years past, with new introductions from the authors. This week, from 2021: listening to the women who alleged abuse, and fighting to get their stories heard, helped change the treatment of victims by the media and the justice system By Poppy Sebag-Montefiore. Read by Caroline Wildi. Help support our independent journalism at theguardian.com/longreadpod

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0:00.0

This is The Guardian.

0:08.7

The Guardian Archive Long Read.

0:19.7

Hi, I'm Poppy C. Bagmonte, Fefuri, and I wrote how two BBC journalists risk their jobs to reveal the truth about Jimmy Saville.

0:29.6

And that was published in 2021.

0:33.0

One of the reasons that I really wanted to write this story is because I'm really interested in the ways that our minds change.

0:41.8

And I don't mean just as individuals, but I mean as collectives and as a culture and as society.

0:47.6

And I think this story is really about a mental shift.

0:51.0

Because before this story takes place, the whole culture thinks one way about what we then

0:59.2

think of as celebrity sex scandals. They're tabloid news stories. They're really about this powerful

1:07.2

man who is behaving badly. And what happens during the process of Liz McKean and

1:15.5

Myrian Jones trying to get this story out on news night and failing to being stopped by their

1:21.9

editors and then eventually kind of pushing it out by other means and very publicly revealing to the nation and beyond

1:30.4

how difficult that was the structures that were in place to protect powerful men and the structures

1:37.4

that were in our minds to stop us that meant that we saw these stories as about these powerful

1:43.0

men rather than about the women who

1:45.6

were being abused. So I think, you know, we've seen since the Saville story broke,

1:52.5

just such a huge change in the culture on this subject. And I wanted to go back and find that

1:57.7

very moment where that change began to happen. And especially because that

2:05.5

change was started by individuals, very few individuals with a lot of courage and a lot of grit.

2:12.9

And Liz McKean was prepared to risk everything to get this story out. And she did risk a lot,

2:21.7

but she made it happen. And she's a hero. And I'd not seen her story told either.

2:29.3

So in the few years since I wrote this piece, I think we've seen more of a backlash to this movement

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