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The Audio Long Read

From the archive: Concrete: the most destructive material on Earth

The Audio Long Read

The Guardian

Society & Culture

4.32.4K Ratings

🗓️ 20 July 2022

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

We are raiding the Audio Long Read archives to bring you some classic pieces from years past, with new introductions from the authors. This week, from 2019: After water, concrete is the most widely used substance on the planet. But its benefits mask enormous dangers to the planet, to human health – and to culture itself. Help support our independent journalism at theguardian.com/longreadpod

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0:00.0

This is the Guardian.

0:11.2

Hello, this is Jonathan Watts. I'm global environment editor for the Guardian

0:16.3

and author of the Long Read article Concrete, the most destructive material on Earth.

0:22.9

I'm speaking to you today from my home in Altamira, a place in the Amazon rainforest,

0:29.5

so forgive me if you can hear some bird and insect noises in the background.

0:34.3

I was inspired to write this article by a conversation I had with the editor of the Guardian

0:41.2

City's team, Chris Michaels. He was running a series about Concrete and he came up to me and said,

0:48.0

would I like to do an overarching piece about the subject? At first I was hesitant because it

0:53.6

would be a big commitment and then I just realized that I've been thinking about Concrete

1:00.4

in different forms all my working career and this was a chance to put together everything I'd

1:07.2

seen in different poses of foreign correspondent. I became very excited about this possibility to

1:13.6

include thoughts I've been having for more than a decade, thoughts dating back to my time as a

1:18.6

Tokyo correspondent and a China correspondent, then a Brazil correspondent and then kind of wrapping

1:24.0

it all together with the environmental specialism that I have now. Three years on I think there is

1:30.8

a lot more discussion of whether Concrete is always a good thing. It's been taken for granted for

1:38.0

too long but what I hope was to take away from my article and indeed the whole series that the

1:44.6

Guardian ran was that there's a point when too much of a good thing can become a bad thing and

1:50.7

that we may be overused in Concrete, we may be depending on it too much, we may not

1:57.2

be exploring the alternatives sufficiently and I think that debate really has started in earnest.

2:03.6

I don't think I've ever written an article in my 25 years as a journalist that generated quite

2:10.4

as much discussion as this one. That surprised me at first but then when you start to think about it

2:17.2

of course it does, Concrete is so pervasive, it's such a fundamental part of our lives and we take

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