From Teen Vogue to Tech, 300K Jobless Black Women are a Warning for Everyone

There Are No Girls on the Internet

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Society & Culture, Technology

4.4 • 820 Ratings

🗓️ 5 November 2025

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

Black women are leaving the workforce and it’s a warning sign for the entire economy. From media to tech, more than 300,000 Black women have left their jobs in the last year. What’s driving this exodus, and what does it reveal about the state of work in America? Bridget speaks with:

Anna Gifty, economist and author of the fascinating new book The Double Tax: How Women of Color Are Overcharged, and Underpaid, and

sociologist Marianne Cooper, Senior Research Scholar at Stanford University's VMware Women's Leadership Innovation Lab,

about the economic pressures, pay gaps, and burnout pushing Black women out and why their exit should concern everyone.

Anna and Marianne’s Time piece: https://time.com/7315624/rising-unemployment-black-women-economy/

Get Anna’s great book! https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/734115/the-double-tax-by-anna-gifty-opoku-agyeman-foreword-by-chelsea-clinton/

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0:00.0	This is an IHeart podcast.
0:04.4	Whether or not you think Black One or human is quite literally irrelevant, because at the end of the day, the economy's still going to take my money.
0:15.5	There are no girls on the internet as a production of IHeart Radio and Unbossed Creative.
0:25.6	I'm Bridget Todd, and this is There Are No Girls on the Internet.
0:31.3	It has been a rough time for layoffs across the diversity of sectors.
0:35.8	We've seen layoffs in media.
0:38.0	Here's what one producer had to say
0:39.6	after being laid off at CBS.
0:42.4	I just got laid off from my job at CBS.
0:46.3	And every producer on my team
0:49.6	who got laid off is a person of color.
0:51.6	Every person who gets to stay
0:53.6	and will be relocated within the
0:55.2	company is a white person. Teen Vogue, one Sebastian of political coverage for young people,
1:01.6	laid off every black woman on their team before merging with regular Vogue. Not to mention
1:07.4	tech, where layoffs have overwhelmingly impacted black women, who not even that
1:12.5	long ago were being told by social media that getting a cushy job in tech was the key to
1:18.5	economic stability long term. So, most of us are worried about the economy right now. But at the
1:26.0	same time, we're also being told everything is
1:28.5	fine and that the economy is booming. So it feels like something isn't adding up. So maybe it's time
1:34.7	to look at one of the only economic indicators that actually tells the truth, black women.
1:40.4	Because if you want to know how healthy the economy really is, look at us.
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