From Shadow Artist to Billions: Brian Koppelman

That's What She Said with Sarah Spain

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🗓️ 7 May 2019

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Sarah talks with Brian Koppelman about leaving his early success in the recording industry to pursue a career in writing, how his film Rounders became a cult hit, why he and his writing partner chose to write Billions, and how he decided to try standup comedy shortly after his 40th birthday. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	That's what she said. That's what she said. That's what she said. Well, that's what she said.
0:10.9	Welcome to That's what she said. Conversations with interesting people from the world,
0:15.1	the sports music comedy and more. Talking about their lives, careers, successes, and failures.
0:20.9	Hey everybody, this is a special That's what she said with Sarah Spain. A throwback to an old
0:25.6	podcast that I really love that happened before I joined Leopard and Friends that I want you all to
0:30.2	hear. But because of that, I had to recruit a special friend to share a dilemma today.
0:34.4	And so I want to thank him for his generosity, the extra work and time he put into helping me out
0:39.6	in a pinch. Can't thank him enough for being willing to step in when I needed him. It's my good
0:44.0	friends to got. So let's hear his dilemma. Hey, it's the guy. So I got a lot of dilemmas going on.
0:49.3	Not just today, just in general, dilemmas. Dilemmas. Dilemmas every day. The chief dilemma I have going
0:54.6	on today is how I am the one at ESPN and I am the one at Leopard and Friends podcast network that
1:01.3	gets accused of being lazy. Yet Sarah Spain is sitting here about the repurpose, a podcast.
1:07.2	They call me lazy and she's going to run back an interview she did years ago.
1:12.0	You know what? That is unfair. It's almost like people are basing their opinion of you and your
1:17.2	work ethic on years and years of you doing the bare minimum at all times. It's like they've seen
1:22.7	a pattern throughout your entire career or something and then feel like because you've literally
1:27.6	been like that every day of your life that you must still be like that. You know, it's like the boy
1:33.2	who cried wolf, but instead he cried for someone else to do his job all the time. It's really
1:37.6	despicable that people say that about you. And I for one would never accuse you of anything other
1:42.2	than working 110% at all times, especially when I get caught post Vegas Grand Retirement Party
1:49.2	without a guest from my podcast and need to repurpose an old one and then I don't have a
1:52.4	dilemma. I need to ask you to do my job for me. So I especially in this position right now would
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