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Worldly

From Russia, with love (and hacking)

Worldly

Vox Media Podcast Network

News, Politics, News Commentary

4.41.8K Ratings

🗓️ 19 July 2018

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Summary

Zack, Jenn, and Alex examine the evidence of Russian meddling in the 2016 election — and how much of it President Donald Trump had already been shown before his meeting in Helsinki with Russian President Vladimir Putin. They dig into the Justice Department’s indictment of 12 Russian military intelligence operatives, which came out just before Trump went to Helsinki, and another indictment announced the day of the Helsinki meeting targeting a Russian woman named Maria Butina who allegedly plotted to infiltrate the NRA. For Elsewhere, they look at the unrest in Nicaragua, which has killed some 300 people. Zack tells everyone how to pronounce “Guccifer,” Alex celebrates having gone to the same school as a Russian spy, and Jenn wishes she could dye her hair “red like Mother Russia.” We didn’t go deep into the actual press conference this episode, but if you want to read more about America’s geopolitical suicide, Zack wrote a great piece this week. Alex explained why we didn’t just give things up to Russia — we also didn’t get much in return. Zack mentioned this recent New York times story several times throughout the episode. Jenn talked about Vox writer Andrew Prokop’s breakdown of the Mueller indictment. This is the piece Jenn recommends for anyone who wants to read more about Maria Butina. This is the video of her short interview at FreedomFest Jenn touched on Alexander Torshin momentarily but suggests this for anyone who wants to do a deeper dive. More on Jenn’s point that Russia funded fake Black Lives Matter protests and other fake rallies Jenn gave a shout out to Vox writer Jen Kirby’s roundup of all the times opportunities Trump had to call out Russia for election meddling For Elsewhere, we talk about Nicaragua. For more on that story, Alex suggests this Washington Post piece. Here’s a short Washington Post video of protests in Nicaragua. As Zack promised, some research showing Nicaraguan commitment to democracy The response from Heather Nauert that Jenn paraphrased. Want more Nicaragua coverage? Check out Today, Explained’s episode on the issue. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to worldly part of the Fox Media Podcast Network I'm Zach Beecham and I'm here as always with

0:15.0

co-hosts Jennifer Williams and Alex Ward. Say hi y'all.

0:18.9

Hi y'all. You don't literally have to say hi y'all I know I'm not for Texas. I do have to say hi y'all I follow what is put in front of me

0:28.6

Now if you listen to any news this week you've heard about President Trump's trip to Helsinki and

0:34.1

his now infamous press conference with Vladimir Putin. Reporters asked Trump if he

0:39.0

thought that Russia influenced the 2016 U.S. election and Trump refused to accuse either Russia or Putin.

0:45.6

My people came to me, Dan Coates came to me and some others they said they think

0:51.2

it's Russia. I have President Putin. He just

0:56.0

said it's not Russia. I will say this I don't see any reason why it would be.

1:00.4

So people obviously flipped out as a result of this and to understand

1:05.1

just why it's such a big deal you really need to understand how much

1:09.5

information Trump had about Russia's election tampering going into this meeting in the press conference.

1:14.8

And today what we're going to do is dig into that information.

1:17.2

We're going to focus on the indictment that came out in the past week from the Mueller

1:21.2

probe targeting 12 Russian intelligence

1:24.0

operatives. We'll also talk about an alleged Russian agent

1:28.0

named Maria Bhutanah, who is basically like a character from the

1:31.0

Americans. It's really a bizarre story, but first let's start with the Special

1:36.0

Council's indictments. Jen, what's going on there?

1:39.5

So look, we already knew about the hacks of the DNC, right?

1:43.5

The Democratic National Committee of the Hillary Clinton

1:46.6

campaigns emails, John Pedesta's emails, right?

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