From Russia with Blood

Talking Feds

Harry Litman

Government, News, Politics

4.8 • 4.5K Ratings

🗓️ 6 January 2020

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

The Feds cast a close focus on the scourge of Russian Organized Crime, which stepped into the gap left by the fall of the Soviet Union to play an illicit and controlling role in virtually every important in the country. At the same time, it maintains remarkable ties with Putin’s government, which ultimately controls its actions, including ordering targeted killings of people all over the world who have fallen out of Putin’s favor; and it may have played a role in some of the Trump Organization’s business dealings over the last 15 years. A panel of Russian OC specialists – David Hickton, the US Attorney who brought the first cybercrime case against Russian OC; Martha Boersch who brought and litigated the first important case in US courts involving Russian OC; and Heidi Blake, an investigative reporter whose new book provides an authoritative account on Putin’s use of OC to make war on the West, join Harry to plumb the depths of a singular threat to Western democracies. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Welcome back to Talking Feds, a prosecutor's roundtable that brings together prominent
0:16.5	former federal officials for a dynamic discussion of the most important legal topics of the day.
0:22.8	I'm Harry Littman, I'm a former United States Attorney and Deputy Assistant Attorney General,
0:28.2	and a current Washington Post columnist. Today we're talking about a subject of some intrigue
0:34.8	and mystery that has figured on the edges of the Trump development since 2016 but has
0:41.9	been deviled the United States long before that, namely Russian organized crime. And to do so,
0:49.8	we have a terrific group of journalists and prosecutors starting with David Hickton.
0:58.4	He is the founding director of the University of Pittsburgh Institute for Cyber Law,
1:04.0	Policy and Security. Before that, he was the United States Attorney for the Western District
1:09.8	of Pennsylvania from 2009 to 2017, and he made that office a model of national impact,
1:19.5	which I say with admiration and some envy because it's the office that I previously held.
1:26.5	But he brought many landmark cutting edge cases against Chinese actors for economic espionage,
1:33.1	and more to the point here, the Bogochef case, which was and remains the leading Russian
1:39.1	cyber criminal case. Dave, thanks very much for coming. Thank you, Harry. I'm happy to be here.
1:44.9	Second, very pleased to welcome back to Talking Feds, a familiar face, Martha Bursch,
1:51.5	the founding, a founding partner of the law firm Bursch and Aloppsky. But she was an
1:57.4	assist in US Attorney in the Northern District of California, including under Robert Mueller. You
2:03.4	may remember her participation in our show about that. She held many supervisory positions.
2:10.4	She had the first important Russian organized crime case I'm aware of, the Lazarenko
2:19.0	extortion case brought in 2000 and tried, actually, in 2004. She was also detailed to Moscow for a
2:29.2	constant in the Office of International Affairs. Can you tell us, Martha, what was that about and why you were selected?
2:36.5	So the Department of Justice has people in various embassies around the world,
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