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Voices for Justice

From Revisionist History: The Alabama Murders

Voices for Justice

Sarah Turney

True Crime, Society & Culture, Documentary

4.89K Ratings

🗓️ 2 October 2025

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

We're sharing a preview of a new podcast we think you'll enjoy. It's from the new season of Malcolm Gladwell's Revisionist History podcast, The Alabama Murders. Florence, Alabama. 1988. A preacher has an affair. A woman is murdered. One death cascades into more, stretching across decades and leaving no one untouched — victims, bystanders, perpetrators, and those just trying to help. Eventually, the consequences lead to the center of a hot national debate on who should be allowed to live, who should die, and how the state should kill them. On The Alabama Murders, Malcolm asks: why, in our efforts to alleviate suffering, do we so often make it worse? Find Revisionist History: The Alabama Murders wherever you get podcasts. To get early access to ad-free episodes and extra content, subscribe to Pushkin+ on the Revisionist History show page on Apple Podcasts or at pushkin.fm/plus. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey everyone, Sarah here. One of the things we talk about a lot on this show is how our justice system

0:05.6

isn't only flawed, but performative. It looks like justice, but when the layers are peeled back,

0:12.0

you start to see the cracks. That's why I want to share with you a powerful new series from

0:17.0

revisionist history, best-selling author Malcolm Gladwell's podcast about things overlooked and

0:22.7

misunderstood. The new series, The Alabama Murders, looks at the ethical and emotional layers of a

0:29.2

criminal case, providing a thoughtful interrogation of the structures that allow injustice to persist.

0:35.6

The series tells the story of Charles Senate, an Alabama Church of

0:39.6

Christ minister, who was having an affair with a parishner, and rather than facing the shame of

0:44.9

divorcing his wife, arranged for three men to kill her. This decision would lead to unexpected

0:50.6

consequences, including the disturbed, botched execution of one of the hitmen,

0:56.1

Kenny Smith, that would trickle down for decades. Examining the systems we've created,

1:01.8

systems that led to moral, legal, and institutional failures, Malcolm asks, why in our efforts

1:08.3

to alleviate suffering do we so often make it worse? In the episode you're

1:13.3

about to hear, Malcolm speaks with a psychologist who worked with Kenny Smith when he was on

1:17.8

death row. Kenny's story would lead Malcolm down to Alabama, to learn about the crime that landed

1:23.3

him in prison, the church leader that set the crime in motion, and the cascading effect that one

1:28.6

action would have for years to come. I think this series will speak to you, and hope you like this

1:34.1

episode. If you want to hear the full story, find revisionist history available wherever you get

1:39.8

podcasts.

1:47.7

Pushkin. Podcasts. A little while ago, a friend of mine told me, you have to meet this person I know,

1:57.2

Kate Porterfield. She's got the strangest job in America. So I did. We got together,

2:03.6

Porterfield and I, in a little conference room in Manhattan. I just want to understand how you

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