We ended up leaving shortly after our home was invaded by militia, who'd come to harm us.

Many of them were young childhood friends of my sisters and aunts, and they eventually

talked to them out of harming us. And once we were able to survive that night,

my grandfather eventually came to the realization that his dream of living this thing through

wasn't going to happen and that if we were going to be safe, we actually had to leave Mokodishou.

Hello and welcome to Wise This Happening with me, your host Chris Hayes.

There's a very strange situation happening in the border between Belarus and Poland,

which is also the border between Belarus and the EU, Poland's EU. Belarus, of course, the

last dictatorship in Europe under a man named Lukashenko, who has been incredibly

poochialistic against the EU. He's aligned with Vladimir Putin, although has a very complicated

fraught relationship with Putin, and has recently devised this unbelievably sort of dehumanizing,

but sort of brilliant troll of the EU in which he has been opening up viseless flights from the

Middle East, Iraq among a number of other countries, into Belarus. And then the folks who are

refugees, they're fleeing circumstance in the Middle East, are then brought to the border with

Poland, with Belarus saying, hey, go to Poland and Poland's saying, no, no, we don't want you. And

one level is trying to highlight the hypocrisy of EU policy on refugees, which is, it is, in

fact, quite restrictive. There's lots of primal rhetoric, and a lot of countries that do not want

refugees to come into their land, or asylum seekers, as these would be. Or specifically,

there's also something just so morbidly disgusting, morally, about sort of using these folks as a

kind of weapon, a kind of human weapon. I was reading articles about this just because I found it

sort of a fascinating situation, a kind of new frontier almost in a sort of kind of hybrid war

almost of using people fleeing terrible situations as a kind of weapon. And it just may be think

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