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From Mob Cases to HRT: Inside the FBI with James A. Gagliano

DEVIANT

Cold Open Media

True Crime

4.8610 Ratings

🗓️ 15 August 2025

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

Co-host Andrew Iden sits down with James A. Gagliano — West Point grad, former FBI Hostage Rescue Team operator, undercover agent, and two-term mayor — for a no-BS debrief on what the job really takes and how the mission shifted after 9/11. If you care about organized crime, counterterrorism, and the reality of modern policing, this one delivers. JOIN OUR PATREON: http://www.deviantpodcast.com Visit DEVIANT's socials: http://www.instagram.com/deviant.podcast http://www.tiktok.com/@deviant.podcast Copyright 2025 Cold Open Media LLC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:33.8

When you work in television news, your job is to make sure, A, that the information is

0:39.3

accurate. And also part of that job means having someone to join the segment that you're

0:45.4

producing to talk about with the on-air talent, with the anchor, to talk about the case, the story,

0:52.3

whatever it is. And oftentimes your job is to find someone who may not necessarily be connected to the story,

0:58.7

the case as it is, but is intelligent and has the knowledge in the background that they can

1:04.0

lend some value to the conversation.

1:06.0

And so part of my job for a long time when I worked in television was to do that.

1:10.3

And there is also always sort of a gamble when you are getting people who you don't know that well, up to speed on stories, up to speed on cases, and having them bring some value to the conversation. So there's always some sort of a little bit of concern is, is this person going to work out? Is there going to be,

1:28.1

you know, some, some dead air? Is the conversation going to be good, organic, and natural?

1:33.4

And there's some that are better than others. It's an acquired skill. But I'm going to tell you that

1:37.0

the guest we talked to today on off script is one of the guys that I worked with many

1:42.4

a times at my time in television news.

1:45.7

And he was the best kind because he knew exactly what he was talking about.

1:50.6

He always brought value to the conversation.

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