G'd hey everybody mat frat here i have some very exciting news i would like to invite you to spend three weeks with me

in a fourteen century monastery in garming Austria

where we will study philosophy and theology together. May 20th to June 7th.

Space is limited so there is a link in the description for you to click and to sign up for

this. It's $3,850 which includes room and board plus

day trips to Vienna and Salzburg, plus an optional fourth week in Rome and a Sisi. The class I'm teaching is called

Abba the Call to Parenthood. Now for college students you'll receive three credits

for this class but you don't have to be interested in the credits to come so again

click the link in the description below and I hope to see you in Austria May 20th.

I will do it now. Thank you Isaac for being on the show. Thanks Matt I'm happy to be here. I think in America you say Isaac Isaac. Isaac.

In Australia, it's Isaac. Oh really? Isaac.

Just thought in Spanish with that to group people, you know?

Nice. Thank you so much for coming on the show. I asked Stephen Johnson back in the day if he'd come on my show to discuss Mormonism and to his credit he prayed about it and said, maybe have on instead and so we had him on anyway and

but it's wonderful to have have you want to discuss yeah I'm happy to be here very flattered to be invited

cool I want to give people kind of just a heads up as to where you are now. Okay. You know I don't want to

So you were LDS. I was raised LDS. Yeah. Yeah you can you you you you started to have doubts. You started to explore we will get into it. We get into it. Yeah if you want like the very high level bullet point.

I was raised LDS. I served a mission. Went to be BYU, got married to my wife in the LDS temple, kind of had a very long, slow process of doubt and that sort of thing and then became very interested in

Eastern Orthodoxy for probably about well about five years or so and then

eventually became Catholic. I was baptized at the Easter Vigil in 2021.

Wonderful and your beautiful bride is still LDS. And my wife is still LDS.

Uh-huh. Yeah, we've got four kids. I don't know if I said that already, but

yeah. I, you know, whenever we do a show like this, you know, maybe I'll interview a Protestant or a former

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