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Cult Conversations: The Influence Continuum with Dr. Steve Hassan

From Growing Up in the Jehovah’s Witnesses to Counseling People Who Wish to Exit it with Frances Peters

Cult Conversations: The Influence Continuum with Dr. Steve Hassan

Dr. Steven Hassan

Self-improvement, Society & Culture, Education

4.8684 Ratings

🗓️ 5 December 2022

⏱️ 79 minutes

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Summary

Come join me in this fascinating interview with Frances Peters who lives in the Netherlands and has a coaching and counseling practice serving people who are former members of a large variety of authoritarian cults, including the one she was raised in. The journey out of a cult for someone raised in it differs from working with someone recruited later in life. This conversation will be of interest to all, but especially to second-generation cult members as well as counselors, spouses, and anyone interested in different approaches to helping. Working with former members is a unique specialization and Frances Peters has a wonderful reputation. I am so pleased to share this interview with her. Learn more about Steven Hassan and Freedom of Mind Resource Center. Visit freedomofmind.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello, I'm Dr. Steven Hassan with another episode of the influence continuum.

0:09.0

And I'm absolutely delighted and honored to have with me Francis Peters from the Netherlands with me today.

0:18.0

I know of Francis's work and met with her a number of visits over to Europe.

0:25.6

She lives in Holland. And Francis was raised in the Jehovah's Witnesses, the Watchtower Society,

0:33.6

and left with her husband and two children, if I remember correctly, Francis. A number of years ago

0:42.2

became a professional counselor and you operate free choice to help other people. And when we

0:51.5

recently saw each other in Nottingham for our mutual friend John's wedding,

0:57.0

I asked you if you'd be willing to share your experience and perspective as a counselor

1:04.7

who is like myself a former member, but you were raised in the group.

1:10.3

I was recruited at 19. And so I'm very interested

1:15.2

in your models for how to help people. And I'm also curious what you know about what's

1:21.8

happening in Europe, if there's anything you want to share with my predominantly U.S. audience.

1:29.0

So with that, Francis Peters, why don't you take a few moments and, you know, tell us your story.

1:37.4

Yeah.

1:37.7

Well, thank you for having me, Stephen.

1:39.7

It's really happy to be here.

1:42.6

Well, my story is more of how I was born and raised as a Jehovah's Witness.

1:48.8

And my mother became a Jehovah's Witness when I was a baby.

1:53.7

But my father never never did.

1:56.4

So it was, as they call it in the Jovis Witnesses, a divided family.

2:03.1

But that had its own problems, of course, because my father was having a completely different life.

2:10.8

And there was a lot of fights, not literally fight, but fighting on a level that my father didn't want her to go to these meetings

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