A lot of people obviously are trying to just jump to the end.

They're not creating the rungs.

And so you said that essentially we got to create these steps.

Like how exactly does that work?

How do you even know what the first step is?

Well, I mean, a big thing is like, let's just take an experiment.

So I'm a big believer of like, what if you just came up with a list of things you want to do?

Not the perfect list. Because what happens is when you start to goal, chase, all your fears wake up. Like, fear never

bothers somebody who isn't trying. Fear will give you a free pass. If you're sitting on the

couch, you're watching 34 hours of TV a week, according to Nielsen. That's the stat. The average

American watches 34 hours of TV a week. If you're not doing anything,

you'll never get bothered. Imposter syndrome doesn't bother people who aren't trying. The only time

I didn't feel like a real writer was when I tried to write and I had to work through that.

So a big part of it is, okay, let's just come up with a list of things you're even curious about. What would that look like? Big things, small things. Let's brainstorm some goals. And then let's pick one to three to give a test

on to say, okay, I really want to write a book. So I'm going to read a, but I'm not going to go,

I bought a program. I'm going to do this this weekend. I'm going to read one book about writing or I'm going to write a hundred words and so I'm trying to help people

actionify their goal so people have a really hard time like there's four stages of a goal there's

dream plan do review those are the four stages and people get stuck so dreamers get stuck in dream

because they have a thousand ideas zero actions perfectionists get stuck in plan they say Ryan I'm going to do so many things plan. They say, Ryan, I'm going to do so

many things. As soon as the plan is perfect, I'm going to do so many, and they never do anything.

Procrastinators get stuck and do. Like, they're always going to do it later. I'm going to do it

later, like next year, and then hustlers get stuck in review. A hustler hates to review. I see this with sales guys all the time. Like they'll, like I work with sales

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