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The Rich Roll Podcast

From Fat Kid To Pro Cyclist: Phil Gaimon On Clean Sport, Racing On $10 A Day & The Worst Retirement Ever

The Rich Roll Podcast

Rich Roll

Health & Fitness, Education, Self-improvement, Society & Culture

4.812.9K Ratings

🗓️ 18 September 2017

⏱️ 106 minutes

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“The biggest factor in who made it to the next level wasn’t talent or work ethic. It was a willingness to keep plugging away through all the hard times.” Phil Gaimon Let's talk about doping. Throw cycling into the conversation and emotions are sure to run hot. It's an emotional subject for reasons both obvious and obscure. A flashpoint that divides loyalties, pitting our innate sense of fairness against our natural impulse to forgive. I have opinions on the matter. But my perspective is far from set in cement. Because I am aware that it's formed from the sidelines, as an observer of a very insular subculture beyond my direct experience, and to which I am not privy. Unless you were actually there — in the unfortunate and precarious position so many athletes across so many sports abruptly find themselves — my opinion is that we should not be so quick to judge. Everybody thinks they would make the right choice. I certainly do. But that's just projection. The truth is that you don't actually know what you would do. Connecting with this impulse helps me empathize with those who went astray. Is that a good thing? I honestly don't know. Phil Gaimon did make the right choice. A somewhat polarizing figure in the cycling community, today he tells the tale. Overcoming childhood obesity to achieve his dream of riding professionally, over the course of his professional cycling career Phil competed on several established domestic teams like Jelly Belly, Bissel and Optum-Kelly Benefit as well as high profile, international UCI teams like Garmin Sharp in 2014 and Cannondale–Drapac in 2016 before hanging up his bib shorts at the end of last year. Well, not exactly, but I'll get to that part in a minute. Along the way he has raced and trained with the best. Now he writes about his experiences, coming clean on what transpired behind cycling's shrouded curtain with wit and a healthy dose of comedic self-deprecation. He is the author of Pro Cycling On $10 A Day* and Ask a Pro*. His newest tome, Draft Animals: Living The Pro Cycling Dream (Once In A While) — an entertaining memoir about achieving his childhood dream of riding pro on the World Tour and what happened to him when he achieved it — hits bookstores October 10, 2017. When he's not writing books, Phil is an active blogger and contributor to various cycling publications like Velo News. He also hosts The Peloton Brief Podcast and is the founder of Phil’s Cookie Fondo – a series of cycling adventures between 32 and 113 miles taking place October 15 that showcases Malibu’s great climbs (and apparently involves a lot of cookies). Back to the bib shorts. He didn't exactly hang them up. In fact, Phil has spent the better part of the last year pursuing what he calls The Worst Retirement Ever — an endeavor in which he is attempting to clock the fastest-ever... Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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0:00.0

Everyone's a cyclist before they're an athlete. Everyone just starts to ride bikes for fun.

0:04.9

So for me, I just like to go out and exploring. Riding a bike, you see the world at this pace

0:09.9

that when you're driving, you miss it. You know, you don't smell it. You don't, you know,

0:14.0

you don't see what's going on. When you're running, like, you can see it, but you don't cover a lot of ground.

0:18.5

But when you're riding, you can really soak up a lot in a day. You can really feel what's going on.

0:23.4

And, and you can stop for, you know, pick up an apple or something. And so that was what I got out of it.

0:29.2

And I found like, if you're training and you're steering at your power meter and you're doing it,

0:32.6

and you're workout and your coach and all this stuff, like, it's some point it can start to feel like

0:36.6

work if you're not careful. And so once in a while, like, think about what got you into it and carve

0:42.1

that out for yourself. Just today, go out and do what you feel like. Just go for a ride.

0:46.4

It reinvigorates everything and, and at some point, like that, I definitely like extended my training

0:51.9

and it made life a lot easier. And at some point, that's all I'm going to do.

0:55.0

That's Phil Gaiman, this week on the Retro podcast.

1:08.8

The Rich Roll Podcast. Hey, everybody. How you guys doing? What's happening? How are you? My name is

1:14.2

Rich Roll. This is my podcast. Welcome to it. The show where each week I go deep. I get intimate.

1:20.5

I go down the rabbit hole with all manner of movers and shakers and inspiring people and

1:27.5

wise personalities across a wide spectrum of everything from wellness to fitness, entrepreneurship,

1:32.9

spirituality, addiction recovery, sports, literature, medicine, entertainment. And I bring you

1:39.0

these people. I engage these people. I share these stories and this wisdom. All is a means to

1:45.0

help you and me, of course, as well. Just become a little bit better, a little more self-actualized.

1:52.6

The idea, of course, is to help all of us unlock and unleash our best most authentic self.

1:58.3

I know that sounds a little bit pithy and trite, but it's kind of a cool aspiration. So come on,

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